Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Ranaldo Bairn]

Or, a hearts lad was on here some time ago and explained their situation.

[Ranaldo Bairn]

Nacho? Any ideas why everyone agreed Airdrieonians and Gretna died but after 2012 things changed?

[Ken Fitlike]

Airdrieonians.  Sir David Murray - 'it's only business'

 

Rangers.  HMRC. - 'it's just desserts for blatant tax dodging'

 

I read that on a blog.

[nacho]

how many of those were liquidated?

 

all of them apart from hibs

 

[nacho]

Nacho? Any ideas why everyone agreed Airdrieonians and Gretna died but after 2012 things changed?

 

it didnt as already pointed out, there are numerous examples of clubs liquidating oldco forming a newco and the club surviving pre rangers, these more relevant examples (almost exactly the same as what happened to rangers) are ignored by you lot in favour of less relevant examples (no-one even attempted to buy airdie or gretna) as they torpedo your new club "argument"

 

[nacho]

Nacho seems to be.

Oh and blogs lol

 

I'm pointing out that hearts went through the same process as rangers  - its a matter of public record, you are the one claiming the laws were different without any evidence - hope that helps

 

[Monkey Tennis]

it didnt as already pointed out, there are numerous examples of clubs liquidating oldco forming a newco and the club surviving pre rangers, these more relevant examples (almost exactly the same as what happened to rangers) are ignored by you lot in favour of less relevant examples (no-one even attempted to buy airdie or gretna) as they torpedo your new club "argument"

I don't ignore them.

I view them in very similar terms to those in which I view the Rangers situation.

[Monkey Tennis]

Also, when Airdrieonians got liquidated, that was it. When Gretna got liquidated, that was it.

Your guff would be better written as "how come it was only in 2012 that people started pretending incorporated companies could survive liquidation?".

That's exactly it.

[nacho]

That's exactly it.

 

exept its not as the numerous pre 2012 examples prove, the only way your argument works if if you ignore the evidence, which you are doing a great job of

 

[nacho]

I don't ignore them. I view them in very similar terms to those in which I view the Rangers situation.

 

no-one considers them new clubs

 

[dave.j]

exept its not as the numerous pre 2012 examples prove, the only way your argument works if if you ignore the evidence, which you are doing a great job of

I think it's a bit rich for you to suggest anyone is ignoring evidence.

[Ken Fitlike]

exept its not as the numerous pre 2012 examples prove, the only way your argument works if if you ignore the evidence, which you are doing a great job of

 

 

so rangers weren't liquidated, then?

[Ranaldo Bairn]

So Mr "club's have no legal personality, they are the sporting side of the company" novo, can I go and buy Gretna and their history now? I might bid £1, although you couldn't buy anything of value with that could you?

[nacho]

Folk still do this

 

sadly yes   

 

[Monkey Tennis]

no-one considers them new clubs

I consider them as sort of new, but obviously not entirely.

Same with Rangers.

[nacho]

I think it's a bit rich for you to suggest anyone is ignoring evidence.

 

yawn - you keep coming out with this, but provide nothing to back it up, i am happy to acknowledge any new club evidence provided

 

all that i have seen in the last 4 years are newspaper headlines and ex players statements, you dont have anything else

[Ranaldo Bairn]

I'm pointing out that hearts went through the same process as rangers - its a matter of public record, you are the one claiming the laws were different without any evidence - hope that helps

They were different back then. The Hearts lad explained it. It's also the source of the Edinburgh Gazette chat, as that's where such announcements were/are made.

Ps Hearts paid their bills so deserve sympathy.

[nacho]

I consider them as sort of new, but obviously not entirely. Same with Rangers.

 

which differs with what the football authorities state

 

[Monkey Tennis]

exept its not as the numerous pre 2012 examples prove, the only way your argument works if if you ignore the evidence, which you are doing a great job of

How so? What evidence am I ignoring?

I'm conceding your point that other clubs have undergone similar experiences to Rangers and should therefore be regarded in much the same way.

Why does that cause you a difficulty?

[nacho]

They were different back then. The Hearts lad explained it. It's also the source of the Edinburgh Gazette chat, as that's where such announcements were/are made.

Ps Hearts paid their bills so deserve sympathy.

 

so he claims - hearts formed a newco , transferred the club and liquidated the oldco just like rangers and the club survived, its the most relevant example in scottish football