wulliamwallace Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 http://www.theoffshoregame.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Web-edition-Doing-SFA-for-Fair-Play-Main-report.pdfThe full report from The tax justice network & the offshore game. Stock up on jelly & ice cream the fun is about to begin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 http://www.theoffshoregame.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Web-edition-Doing-SFA-for-Fair-Play-Main-report.pdf The full report from The tax justice network & the offshore game. Stock up on jelly & ice cream the fun is about to begin I suspect the SFA will just keep ignoring this - they've no incentive to answer. Unless The Offshore Game can get some mainstream media attention, this report will just wither on the vine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The tax justice network, that sounds awfy important and definitely legit. I don't suppose we can just pass that one off as just another blog. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The tax justice network, that sounds awfy important and definitely legit. I don't suppose we can just pass that one off as just another blog. They describe themselves as a 'a website'. But, I've had a read through and there's nothing in their report that anyone, not even a Rangers fan, would dispute. Have a read and let us know whether you'd disagree with anything in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Probably best if you give me a quick summary (in layman's terms) , maybe point out what you agree with and such... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Probably best if you give me a quick summary (in layman's terms) , maybe point out what you agree with and such... I started to reply with a quick summary but decided a) that I didn't want to risk repeating anything that might later be regarded as libelous and b) that I was dealing with notoriously lazy Barsteward Bennett: you can do your own bloody reading. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Probably best if you give me a quick summary (in layman's terms) , maybe point out what you agree with and such... Or you could just read it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Probably best if you give me a quick summary (in layman's terms) , maybe point out what you agree with and such... I've read them both. Nothing you've not read on here dozens of times: The TJN: Rangers are deid and they cheated. The Offshore Game: Rangers pyoor cheated, LNS and Campbell Ogilvie are in the same ludge, the SFA conspired with Rangers to give them a license to play in Europe. They used more words, of course, but said nothing more than I've just summarised. Edited May 7, 2016 by The_Kincardine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I've read them both. Nothing you've not read on here dozens of times: The TJN: Rangers are deid and they cheated. The Offshore Game: Rangers pyoor cheated, LNS and Campbell Ogilvie are in the same ludge, the SFA conspired with Rangers to give them a license to play in Europe. They used more words, of course, but said nothing more than I've just summarised. Do you dispute any of the TOG facts, Kinky? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I've read them both. Nothing you've not read on here dozens of times: The TJN: Rangers are deid and they cheated. The Offshore Game: Rangers pyoor cheated, LNS and Campbell Ogilvie are in the same ludge, the SFA conspired with Rangers to give them a license to play in Europe. They used more words, of course, but said nothing more than I've just summarised. Nothing new there then, just the same old sevcoconspiracies... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 No surprise in Bennett getting his news pre-vetted. Quintessential Rangers fan. Rather than sprinkling your wit round the forum, why not take 20 minutes out to read the report and let us know what YOU think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Why don't you tell me what you think about it, what facts you agree with and if they are actually facts. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Now, there's a novel concept - facts that you can choose to agree with or not! Facts are chiels that winna ding, Bennett. The report appears to provide documentary evidence for all of its claims. I'm assuming that, if any of that documentary evidence is false, writs will soon be flying. I'm not holding my breath. I'm not interested in whether you accept the facts but whether you accept the report's recommendations. To save you the trouble of reading the whole thing (shall we just accept the facts as givens?), here's the gist. We therefore recommend the establishment of a fully independent inquiry, as a crucial step to begin the slow process of re-establishing the legitimacy of Scottish football’s regulatory body. Such an inquiry should: • Include in its governance structure, respected figures from outside of football who can bolster the independence of the process; • Include in its governance structure and through submissions a substantial fan and club representation, from across all levels of Scottish football; • Have a two-part mandate: o Firstly, to assess the role of the SFA and the actions of key, senior staff in respect of each issue here, of wider issues of financial transparency, and others as deemed appropriate by the inquiry itself; and o Secondly, to learn from more accountable sports authorities in other fields and/or countries, and to recommend sweeping governance changes to the SFA if deemed necessary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 No surprise in Bennett getting his news pre-vetted. Quintessential Rangers fan. Rather than sprinkling your wit round the forum, why not take 20 minutes out to read the report and let us know what YOU think? Doon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 FB to the rescue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 That's just the opinions of some nutjob/s DA, not facts - just someone with a fair few chips on his shoulder. So what have the SFA done or not done to deserve that tirade? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 That's just the opinions of some nutjob/s DA, not facts - just someone with a fair few chips on his shoulder. So what have the SFA done or not done to deserve that tirade? Just read it, ya slacker. It'll take less time than arguing back and forth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Do you dispute any of the TOG facts, Kinky? The TOG article was particularly entertaining. Wrt Ogilvie and LNS their reasoning was: CO denied knowledge of x. We have proof, PROOF, that he knew about y so therefore he lied ergo we need to reopen the whole LNS enquiry This is the epitome of grey and green logic and the language of every conspiracy theorist I've ever read: Discuss something peripheral to the matter in hand, shout about it and cry foul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 The TOG article was particularly entertaining. Wrt Ogilvie and LNS their reasoning was: CO denied knowledge of x. We have proof, PROOF, that he knew about y so therefore he lied ergo we need to reopen the whole LNS enquiry This is the epitome of grey and green logic and the language of every conspiracy theorist I've ever read: Discuss something peripheral to the matter in hand, shout about it and cry foul. Ogilvie's signature at the bottom of a document relating to Craig Moore's DOS EBT would suggest that TOG do have proof that Ogilvie was aware of the illegality of DOS schemes and, in his capacity as a representative of the SPL, 'decided' not to let the inquiry know. If that evidence is dodgy, I'm sure Ogilvie will sue. However, your summary is incorrect. They're not recommending the reopening of the LNS enquiry. They're saying that an inquiry is needed into the SFA's role and partiality in this case with a view to preventing future recurrences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Ogilvie's signature at the bottom of a document relating to Craig Moore's DOS EBT would suggest that TOG do have proof that Ogilvie was aware of the illegality of DOS schemes and, in his capacity as a representative of the SPL, 'decided' not to let the inquiry know. If that evidence is dodgy, I'm sure Ogilvie will sue. However, your summary is incorrect. They're not recommending the reopening of the LNS enquiry. They're saying that an inquiry is needed into the SFA's role and partiality in this case with a view to preventing future recurrences. Knowing about The DOS isn't the same as knowing about the ramifications of EBTs as claimed by TOG and need not call CO's evidence in to question. They are, of course, using that logic flaw to discredit both CO and the LNS enquiry and we both know how The Plastics respond when they feel they have been slighted. That's you're doing their work for them is slightly disappointing but then most Celtic posters on The Big Thread have no capacity for debate or discourse so have to use the likes of you and monkey as their mouthpieces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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