DomDom Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 True but adding in moves like that and the hurricanrana just give a match something extra. The piledriver moment made me think Punk was going to beat Cena, it's that sort of thing. Then they should do that without including a move which was banned for good reason. Stupid move for both Punk and Cena. Nothing can hide that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Pretty acceptable Raw, started brilliantly and ended brilliantly. Still think Swagger should be pushing for the US Title with his current gimmick, but some good segments with them both tonight. I'd rather see Daniel Bryan pushing for the WHC as I still think he's one of WWE's beet assets. Looking forward to next week's Raw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAGer Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Punk vs Cena was excellent. I'm sure most of us thought it was pretty obvious that Cena was going to win, so it's a tribute to both of them that they managed to put on such a good match. That's his win over Punk cemented, he'll now go on to beat the Rock and go on a long title run. I reckon he'll see out the year at least as champion, barring injury. Ziggler & Cody Rhodes continue to job. Ziggler jobbing to Ryback makes a bit of sense I suppose, but I don't like to see Cody losing to R-Truth. The opening segment started it off well, still a bit disappointed we're leading to two big main event style matches that we seen not that long ago and neither really left me looking for more. I'd like to see the Triple H-Lesnar match with a stipulation though and I'd like to see Lesnar go over again but I don't think that'll happen. I think the Undertaker will return next week, anyone think there were subtle hints from Punk about a match with him? Calling himself God and immortal. I think Punk will come out next week complaining that he's not in a big match at Wrestlemania and the Dead Man will have something to say about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Well, I've watched the match. I stand by my thoughts on those two for even doing it, but that Piledriver got a huge reaction. Everyone thought Cena was dead. Michael Cole sold the moment with class as well. The match was incredible. So many brilliant counters and moments and just stunning from start to finish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAGer Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 <script language='javascript'> </script> Well, I've watched the match. I stand by my thoughts on those two for even doing it, but that Piledriver got a huge reaction. Everyone thought Cena was dead. Michael Cole sold the moment with class as well. The match was incredible. So many brilliant counters and moments and just stunning from start to finish. I've read one one of the wrestling websites that Vince McMahon was very unhappy with the piledriver but won't take action because of the two wrestlers involved. I remember Shawn Michaels doing a couple over the years since it was banned, I think on the Undertaker and/or John Cena. Was he given free reign to do what he wanted as a trusted performer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Well, I've watched the match. I stand by my thoughts on those two for even doing it, but that Piledriver got a huge reaction. Everyone thought Cena was dead. Michael Cole sold the moment with class as well. The match was incredible. So many brilliant counters and moments and just stunning from start to finish. I'm surprised the commentary team actually called the move! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Michael Cole lost his voice calling it. You'd think he'd just pulled out a gun and shot Cena. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Well, I've watched the match. I stand by my thoughts on those two for even doing it, but that Piledriver got a huge reaction. Everyone thought Cena was dead. Michael Cole sold the moment with class as well. The match was incredible. So many brilliant counters and moments and just stunning from start to finish. lolwut 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Gary Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I've not watched RAW but I've seen clips of both the piledriver and the hurricanrana. Cena looked more likely to break his neck doing that Hurricanrana than he did with the piledriver. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 To be fair to Cena he's probably the biggest and heaviest guy I've seen do a hurricanrana at all! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Of Kilsyth Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 To be fair to Cena he's probably the biggest and heaviest guy I've seen do a hurricanrana at all! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Botchicanrana, we've already established cena can't do it, he should move on to something less likely to break his neck. Crackin match from those two tho. Also lol at Cole calling the crossface an stf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Aye, I like Cena a LOT, but he needs to nip this Rana shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The hurricanrana looked ridiculous. What will Cena do next; the 619? A moonsault? A 460?! Actually I'd love to see Cena become a high flyer. It would be hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) The hurricanrana looked ridiculous. What will Cena do next; the 619? A moonsault? A 460?! Unless Sin Cara is teaching him, he'd probably attempt a 450. ETA the smiley in case you thought I was just being pedantic! Edited February 28, 2013 by Mark Connolly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No wonder. It is a stupidly risky move for your main star to take only weeks before Wrestlemania. Then they should do that without including a move which was banned for good reason. Stupid move for both Punk and Cena. Nothing can hide that. How come? Obviously it's a very dangerous move, but it used to be commonplace and it looks great - especially if it's only pulled out once in a blue moon. And why can the Undertaker do it and nobody else? I realise that there are many moves, e.g. shooting star press, that if "tried at home", can kill you, but if the WWE were to eliminate all dangerous moves, we'd just end up with two guys giving each other Ric Flair chops until one of them had to submit to apply some Germolene. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) I'd assume The Undertaker not sitting with it makes it safer. You do that jumping sitdown and it adds a bit of danger to it. A piledriver is a vertical head drop, so obviously a much more different beast to other moves which you'd call "dangerous". EDIT: There's also no real way to reduce risk without making the move look REALLY silly. Edited March 1, 2013 by DomDom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Wrestling is dangerous. That's why it should only be performed by trained individuals. I realise Stone Cold got his neck broken. I know that amateurs have been legitimately paralysed with this move. But at the same time, if both participants agree to it and they know what they're doing, I don't really see the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forehead7 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 How come? Obviously it's a very dangerous move, but it used to be commonplace and it looks great - especially if it's only pulled out once in a blue moon. And why can the Undertaker do it and nobody else? It's dangerous because the neck is clamped by the legs when it gets dropped. There's a lot less room for mistakes on that one. Whereas the tombstone piledriver doesn't have that at all (hell, when he did it to Rey Mysterio, Rey wouldn't even hit the mat!) I would've thought there's a lot more control in the tombstone as you're falling onto your knees (the guy doing it) rather than falling back like the traditional version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Fair does. I agree that the tombstone is less dangerous than a traditional piledriver. I still don't see why it should be banned outright... as a once-in-a-while finisher, it looks very effective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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