garethbalesstupidface Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 its nothing to do with gravitas and only an elitist snob with an unhealthy respect for authority would think that, its about having the right to speak for scotland, which somebody who hasnt been elected by the people of scotland or doesnt represent them in any way shape or form cannot possibly have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I think I'll save a lot of time. Ad Lib, you're a disgrace. A joke figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 he's not in government now though ad lib which means he has no mandate and speaks for nobody except his constituents, he may never be in government again either. they just dont want to antagonise things and lose votes by having a tory fronting their campaign when nobody in scotland votes tory. remember what I had to teach you about democracy and elected representatives? well darling doesnt represent us despite his claim to. Only about forty thousand more folk voted SNP at the last general election. So, over four hundred thousand punters in Scotland vote Tory. Close to 20% of the folk who bothered to voted. Similar in number to both the SNP and the Lib Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethbalesstupidface Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 you really dont understand democracy ad lib seriously you dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I wonder if he compared all the Scottish MPs together and put them each through his own custom "gravitasometer" before making his decision. Or if he first went "The Unionists are right", and then desperately tried to come up with some reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Darling is more senior than those three you mentioned. He's been Chancellor and in any case represents a party with a much larger share of the vote in Scotland than the other 3. Define "senior". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Horrible choice. Doing the dirty on the rest of the UK. You should be ashamed. Hey, I bought the Team GB football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 He doesn't really need to bother. We Scots are sending the separatists packing anyway. Nothing worse than a spineless, gutless leader... #feartie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It's not a government department. It's an informal grouping of the leaders of two parties in coalition and their left-hand-men. Just because they're the "current" Scottish Secretary doesn't mean anything. It's about the gravitas accumulated over their career. Should be Gordon Brown then, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Salmond has it right, Cameron knows that a debate with him would be a disaster for the unionists and for Cameron. No wonder he's shat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Salmond has it right, Cameron knows that a debate with him would be a disaster for the unionists and for Cameron. No wonder he's shat it. And Better Together know this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 In fairness, I think Cameron is well within his rights to not debate Salmond. I've said this consistently. However, Salmond is well within his rights to not debate Darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Salmond has it right, Cameron knows that a debate with him would be a disaster for the unionists and for Cameron. No wonder he's shat it. What's he got to lose? To some on here the referendum is already won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Cameron on Syria - We need to intervene. Cameron on Scottish Independence - it's not for me to intervene Fantastic leadership from the Prime Minister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Indy rally last weekend and now a spineless PM feart to debate independence with our First Minister. It's been a good week for Yes supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I wonder if he compared all the Scottish MPs together and put them each through his own custom "gravitasometer" before making his decision. Or if he first went "The Unionists are right", and then desperately tried to come up with some reasoning. If you want to argue it should be Gordon Brown rather than Darling I won't contest it especially given his role in the Labour campaign, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 In fairness, I think Cameron is well within his rights to not debate Salmond. I've said this consistently. However, Salmond is well within his rights to not debate Darling. He may be well within his rights but I still think he comes out of this looking pretty weak. Happy to preach on and on about the union but craps it when called out by large Alex. Cameron v Salmond would have been the debate many of us undecideds wanted to see, not this Ally D cop out. Thanks but no thanks Darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Hey, I bought the Team GB football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGas Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 It wasn't so long that Rab C was telling the PM to stay out of Scottish business,something about saving his "sabre rattling" for his own problems. So why does the little fat one north of the border want ago now? Goal post movings not allowed old boy. Funny Eye Brows has challenged Rab C,he'll take on Mary Doll too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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