Granny Danger Posted March 13, 2014 Author Share Posted March 13, 2014 We don't get Europe if we lose in the final to Aberdeen. One CL spot and three EL spots is it not? I know there's been talk for a while of defeated finalists not getting the third spot (I actually agree with that) but I'm pretty sure that's still the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_t Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The euro place would go to the 4th placed team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We don't get Europe if we lose in the final to Aberdeen. We do if we finish fourth and Aberdeen finished 2nd or 3rd. Indeed, provided St Johnstone don't win the cup then fourth place will qualify for Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 One CL spot and three EL spots is it not? I know there's been talk for a while of defeated finalists not getting the third spot (I actually agree with that) but I'm pretty sure that's still the way it is. Only if the cup winners have already qualified for the champions league. This year Aberdeen look nailed on for 2nd or 3rd: if they win the cup then they'll qualify as cup winners and the next two highest league placings will qualify through the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Mehmet loyal Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Glasgow Rangers are gonna smash it in the Semi final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Glasgow Rangers are gonna smash it in the Semi final That's nice dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crilly Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Youz worried about losing our best youngsters? Kevin Gallacher seems to be! http://www.sundaypost.com/sport/football/dundee-united-could-be-great-if-they-can-keep-their-talented-youngsters-1.247733 In truth many of "United's" great youngsters are poached from clubs like Brechin City and Queens Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemePaynesSocks Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 In truth many of "United's" great youngsters are poached from clubs like Brechin City and Queens Park. Poaching is good. Healthier than frying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 In truth many of "United's" great youngsters are poached from clubs like Brechin City and Queens Park. Not sure who you're classing as great but most of out of our young Scottish players in the first team squad; Souttar, Gauld, Watson, Armstrong and Dow have only ever been at United. Like Goodie and Russell before them. Andy Robertson was signed from Queens Park, Aiden Connolly too but can't class him as a great yet which leaves GMS who has been a product of a few clubs but it's not true to say that we poach our young players from elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffelz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Armstrong was nicked from Inverness when he was 17 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Armstrong was nicked from released by Inverness when he was 17 I think. FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 He wasn't, his family moved to Dundee when he was 17 and he joined United. He may have had a short spell training with ICT at 16 but it was for less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby82 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not sure who you're classing as great but most of out of our young Scottish players in the first team squad; Souttar, Gauld, Watson, Armstrong and Dow have only ever been at United. Like Goodie and Russell before them. Andy Robertson was signed from Queens Park, Aiden Connolly too but can't class him as a great yet which leaves GMS who has been a product of a few clubs but it's not true to say that we poach our young players from elsewhere. I'm assuming he's confused the Brechin boys club that Gauld, Souttar and Spark played for with Brechin City. Which is an easy mistake to make. *it's not, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm assuming he's confused the Brechin boys club that Gauld, Souttar and Spark played for with Brechin City. Which is an easy mistake to make. *it's not, really. Agreed its not however if the boys club has players like Gauld and Souttar playing and City have Kenneth then the result of a match between the two could only have one outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I'm assuming he's confused the Brechin boys club that Gauld, Souttar and Spark played for with Brechin City. Which is an easy mistake to make. *it's not, really. Sure I read somewhere the United signed-up all 14 players from that age group? Souttar's dad was the manager, not sure if it included young Soapy and perhaps Petrie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffelz Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Petrie is from the same club as Goodwillie and Ferguson. Carse Thistle or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainkev Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Sure I read somewhere the United signed-up all 14 players from that age group? Souttar's dad was the manager, not sure if it included young Soapy and perhaps Petrie? I think the other young boy Euan Spark who recently signed a contract extension with Gauld and Souttar came from the same club. Like Waffelz said I'm sure Petrie didn't come from the same club as Gauld and Souttar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crilly Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not sure who you're classing as great but most of out of our young Scottish players in the first team squad; Souttar, Gauld, Watson, Armstrong and Dow have only ever been at United. Like Goodie and Russell before them. Andy Robertson was signed from Queens Park, Aiden Connolly too but can't class him as a great yet which leaves GMS who has been a product of a few clubs but it's not true to say that we poach our young players from elsewhere. Now I'm not saying that these lads were poached from other senior clubs as adults but a fair few were taken from other clubs' youth set ups, or had at least been part of another club's set up. Armstrong (ICT), Dow (Dundee), Gauld (Brechin City), Souttar (Brechin City), Robertson & Connolly (Queens Park). What United do seem to be good at is attracting the cream of other clubs youth set ups (I don't know how), developing them for a year or two and then they hit the first team as "products of United's youth set up". Its a system that obviously works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Now I'm not saying that these lads were poached from other senior clubs as adults but a fair few were taken from other clubs' youth set ups, or had at least been part of another club's set up. Armstrong (ICT), Dow (Dundee), Gauld (Brechin City), Souttar (Brechin City), Robertson & Connolly (Queens Park). What United do seem to be good at is attracting the cream of other clubs youth set ups (I don't know how), developing them for a year or two and then they hit the first team as "products of United's youth set up". Its a system that obviously works well. Gauld and Souttar have both been at United for over eight years. Dow came to United when he was 12. Armstrong was released by ICT when they dismantled their youth set-up after getting relegated and before he had ever featured in a first team squad. I've never heard anyone suggest that Robertson or Connolly were products of the United youth set-up although neither have ever played for a professional club previously. Is that too fine a distinction? Depends if you think that someone can have a proprietorial interest without actually paying you. In short, you're talking nonsense. United's youth set up and signing policy is no different than any other. Clubs sign players at 8/10/12/14/16/18/20 etc and try to develop every single one of them into first team players. The acid test is whether they actually play and contribute to the first team, not whether they previously played for Brechin Boys Club when they were 9 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Gauld and Souttar have both been at United for over eight years. Dow came to United when he was 12. They're clearly not products of United if they weren't grown in a pumpkin patch in the allotments behind the east stand or didn't come out of Steven Thompson's vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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