The Universe

[welshbairn]

First and last we'll see of aliens is when they stop by to e=mc^2 Earth to top up their warp drive. I read elsewhere you'd have to convert the mass of a whole galaxy into energy for it to work, which would send the tree huggers mental.

[Doctor Manhattan]

2 hours ago, throbber said:

This is the whole thing about the Fermi paradox. The Big Bang happened 13.8 billion years ago, the earth is 4.4 billion years old and humans have only been here some 2.8 million years. Whilst people have used the stars for navigation for thousand of years we only invented the telescope some 500 years ago and since then we have surrounded our planets with satellites and put men on the moon and are exploring further afield within our own solar system. If we carry on at this rate where are we going to be in 1 thousand/1 million/1 billion years time for example? We are surely quite late to the party given the scale of our own galaxy so why hasn’t some other life force made themselves unequivocally known yet? 

von Neumann probes

"It has been theorised that a self-replicating starship utilizing relatively conventional theoretical methods of interstellar travel (i.e., no exotic faster-than-light propulsion, and speeds limited to an "average cruising speed" of 0.1c.) could spread throughout a galaxy the size of the Milky Way in as little as half a million years."

[Silvio Tattiescone]

5 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

First and last we'll see of aliens is when they stop by to e=mc^2 Earth to top up their warp drive. I read elsewhere you'd have to convert the mass of a whole galaxy into energy for it to work, which would send the tree huggers mental.

Just wait until we start to use dark energy

 

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Theoretically, a spacecraft that runs on dark energy is possible. According to a paper published in 2008 on arXiv.org, a dark-energy-powered spacecraft may be able to travel faster than the speed of light. 

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/dark-energy3.htm#:~:text=Theoretically%2C a spacecraft that runs,than the speed of light.

 

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The spaceship would actually stay in place while space-time around it was affected.

So instead of moving the spaceship really fast, you move the universe really fast. This is how the Eurostar trains work. 

[Venti]

35 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

 

Who needs warp speed when you can click your fingers like a Q.

[Plumpy]

15 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said:

Just wait until we start to use dark energy

 

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/dark-energy3.htm#:~:text=Theoretically%2C a spacecraft that runs,than the speed of light.

 

So instead of moving the spaceship really fast, you move the universe really fast. This is how the Eurostar trains work. 

I wonder what the Just Stop Dark Energy movement will glue themselves to, Higgs Bosun particles ?

[throbber]

50 minutes ago, Doctor Manhattan said:

von Neumann probes

"It has been theorised that a self-replicating starship utilizing relatively conventional theoretical methods of interstellar travel (i.e., no exotic faster-than-light propulsion, and speeds limited to an "average cruising speed" of 0.1c.) could spread throughout a galaxy the size of the Milky Way in as little as half a million years."

Yes and the point is largely how far we have come in 500 years and how much of a drop In the ocean that time is in the scale of the universe. Assuming we progress at the same rate without wiping ourselves out then we will be unrecognisable even in 10 thousand years let alone half a million. Perhaps civilisations reach a certain level of evolution and then self destruct before they get explore galaxies or perhaps we are the most advanced species in our galaxy or perhaps other species are so far evolved they exist in a different dimension to us altogether.

[Bairnardo]

The infinite universe is presumably full of different versions of us, who with unerring regularity, destroy themselves long before they harness the technology required to travel beyond their own galaxy. I mean, we must be a good bit closer to our own destruction than we are to intergalactic travel by any measure.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

You would only get the right wing loony folk complaining about aliens coming down here and taking their jobs anyway.

[Doctor Manhattan]

11 minutes ago, throbber said:

Yes and the point is largely how far we have come in 500 years and how much of a drop In the ocean that time is in the scale of the universe. Assuming we progress at the same rate without wiping ourselves out then we will be unrecognisable even in 10 thousand years let alone half a million. Perhaps civilisations reach a certain level of evolution and then self destruct before they get explore galaxies or perhaps we are the most advanced species in our galaxy or perhaps other species are so far evolved they exist in a different dimension to us altogether.

5 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

The infinite universe is presumably full of different versions of us, who with unerring regularity, destroy themselves long before they harness the technology required to travel beyond their own galaxy. I mean, we must be a good bit closer to our own destruction than we are to intergalactic travel by any measure.

Step 8.5 of the Great Filter ?

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Maybe the astronomers should be looking for irradiated cinders of planets as a sign of life?

[Melanius Mullarkey]

2 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said:

 looking for irradiated cinders

Dangerous game, they may get it mixed up with East Kilbride. 

[tamthebam]

6 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

You would only get the right wing loony folk complaining about aliens coming down here and taking their jobs anyway.

I look forward to the welcome little GREEN men will get in Larkhall

[throbber]

Water found on mars some 20 Km underground. I wonder if there’s some sort of underground civilisation going on down there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxl849j77ko

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Slowly, but surely drawing up their plans against us? 

[throbber]

25 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said:

Slowly, but surely drawing up their plans against us? 

I highly doubt it. There might be some sort of bacteria down there at best but we will probably never know.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

1 hour ago, throbber said:

I highly doubt it. There might be some sort of bacteria down there at best but we will probably never know.

What's the chances?

[throbber]

Just now, Newbornbairn said:

What's the chances?

I have no idea. How are we going to dig down to that sort of depth on another planet?

[Silvio Tattiescone]

Hell's teeth Ogilvy!

[DA Baracus]

The technology to fire about the universe will never happen because it's impossible. Warp and all stuff is just sci-fi unfortunately and can never be a reality.

No doubt at some point there will be a human on Mars but the resources and cost to get folk there is massive, so there's zero chance of getting folk living there, although no one would want to and it isn't possible long term anyway.

[throbber]

6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

The technology to fire about the universe will never happen because it's impossible. Warp and all stuff is just sci-fi unfortunately and can never be a reality.

No doubt at some point there will be a human on Mars but the resources and cost to get folk there is massive, so there's zero chance of getting folk living there, although no one would want to and it isn't possible long term anyway.

If all the human race were to adopt this attitude then we would still be living in caves.