Half Rice Half Chips Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I have it, and it is a very interesting piece indeed. Of course, Dudley Edwards was dismissed as being too British by SF shortly after the book came out. They sure don't do irony, given her background. Ruth Dudley Edwards is far, far, far from being an Irish nationalist. Self-hating Irishwoman would be a more apt description. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I suspect that your post says more about you than it does about her. How dare she have an opinion outwith the nationalist norm? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Ruth Dudley Edwards is far, far, far from being an Irish nationalist. Self-hating Irishwoman would be a more apt description. Here's her take on the issue for those that are interested. http://www.ruthdudleyedwards.co.uk/nonfiction/RDE-writingTribe.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He's an attention seeking cock who appears to be aware of only one side of the sectarian issue. What's the other side? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What's the other side? The 'leg' side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 He's an attention seeking cock who appears to be aware of only one side of the sectarian issue. First part of your sentence is true, the second part has nothing to do with troops behaving like they're at a chimps tea party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 George Galloway today submitted the following motions which should appear on the order paper tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday.British soldiers and sectarianism That this House condemns the reprehensible and ill-disciplined behaviour of members of the Armed Forces including some Royal Marine soldiers at Ibrox Park, the home of Glasgow Rangers, on Saturday 28th September 2013 on what was dubbed an “armed forces' day”; notes the sickening scenes as they chanted songs attacking Catholics, embraced braying fans and held up sectarian banners; questions the role of the senior officers who apparently sanctioned the event and appeared to take no action to halt the behaviour; and demands that those marines who joined in this hatefest are severely disciplined. Nice to see George working hard for the people of Bradford West as opposed to jumping on a bandwagon ... the man is nothing more than a repulsive fuckwit with all the integrity of the X Factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 George Galloway today submitted the following motions which should appear on the order paper tomorrow (Tuesday) or Wednesday.British soldiers and sectarianism That this House condemns the reprehensible and ill-disciplined behaviour of members of the Armed Forces including some Royal Marine soldiers at Ibrox Park, the home of Glasgow Rangers, on Saturday 28th September 2013 on what was dubbed an “armed forces' day”; notes the sickening scenes as they chanted songs attacking Catholics, embraced braying fans and held up sectarian banners; questions the role of the senior officers who apparently sanctioned the event and appeared to take no action to halt the behaviour; and demands that those marines who joined in this hatefest are severely disciplined. I've had a look at http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/business-papers/ and can't find any sign of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What's the other side? Are you serious? First part of your sentence is true, the second part has nothing to do with troops behaving like they're at a chimps tea party. No, but it has everything to do with not-so-Gorgeous George, and that is who I was commenting on. I am not defending those who misbehaved, nor would I ever, but I stand by the remark that George's criticisms tend/appear to be myopic and one-sided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Are you serious? Deadly. Enlighten me. Edited October 8, 2013 by Belfast_Tim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 I'm the other side? FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The notion that sectarianism is rampant on both sides is a complete myth. Mostly one sided. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The notion that sectarianism is rampant on both sides is a complete myth. Mostly one sided. That is utter nonsense, sectarianism exists on both sides wether in Northern Ireland or Scotland.although how rampant it is on either side would be what I would question.it certainly isn't as widespread as some would believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 That is utter nonsense, sectarianism exists on both sides wether in Northern Ireland or Scotland.although how rampant it is on either side would be what I would question.it certainly isn't as widespread as some would believe. In what way? The orange order are an inherently sectarian organisation. It is supported by ALL unionist politicians and the majority of their communities. There is quite simply no equivalent organisation on our side of the divide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 There are you know, although they are not as widespread/well-publicised, and sectarianism is clearly evident on both sides of the divide. You are delusional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 There are you know, although they are not as widespread/well-publicised, and sectarianism is clearly evident on both sides of the divide. You are delusional. What are they then? The orange order are romanticised by the media and half of the government. Pure makes me sick. Imagine if this was the case in America with the KKK. Orangefest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) What are they then? The orange order are romanticised by the media and half of the government. Pure makes me sick. Imagine if this was the case in America with the KKK. Orangefest The Catholic Church is just as horrid an organisation as the OO. Edited October 8, 2013 by AberdeenBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The Catholic Church is just as horrid an organisation as the OO. But that's an actual sect as opposed to being "sectarian". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 What are they then? The orange order are romanticised by the media and half of the government. Pure makes me sick. Imagine if this was the case in America with the KKK. Orangefest Evidence of this ludicrous claim please. "Romanticized?" The Catholic Church is just as horrid an organisation as the OO. Indeed. Utterly disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast_Tim Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 The Catholic Church is just as horrid an organisation as the OO. I completely agree with you. I detest the Catholic Church. However it doesn't excommunicate people for marrying protestants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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