nsr Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I always thought the speed limit on the dualed parts was 70, meaning you could get away with just under 80. Just found out it's 60, same as the rest of the road. Be careful out there. I think it's 70 if there's a central reservation between the two sides of the road, 60 if not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What? You're kidding? If true it's clear these average speed cameras are about income generation, nothing more. I wonder if most of the speed limit signs will disappear like they did on the A77. ETA - Checked http://a9road.info/safety-statistics/speed-limit-information/ It's 70 on the dual sections, but 60 on the overtaking lanes. Ah right, sorry. Still, I thought 70 was ok on the overtaking bits.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why not keep lorry speed to 40 overtaking zones then? Give other cars and traffic a chance to overtake safely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Why not keep lorry speed to 40 overtaking zones then? Give other cars and traffic a chance to overtake safely?The suicide lanes are horrific, far too short to be of any real use. Especially since the road will be duelled eventually anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_bairn Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Now we will get idiots overtaking but afraid to go quick and result in more head ons. Just going to have to suck it up I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Now we will get idiots overtaking but afraid to go quick and result in more head ons. Just going to have to suck it up I'm afraid. They'll overtake at 90, pull in and slam on the brakes to keep their average down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Ah right, sorry. Still, I thought 70 was ok on the overtaking bits.. Maybe it's my imagination but the convoys of trucks and whatever else all seem to increase their speed when they get onto these 3 lane sections, and it can be a struggle to get safely past a line of them without going way above that 60mph limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 This, or they seem to think an elephant race at 40Mph up a slight incline is a good idea. Prostitute murdering arseholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Speed cameras will do nothing to prevent horror crashes on the A9. What? Fergus Ewing has statistics, as published in the Inverness Courier, that prove Norwegian cameras have reduced fatalities. People are living now that would otherwise have died. People are living now that would otherwise have died. Anybody that can counter that better have a good argument. Meanwhile the sober Chief Superintendent Julian Innes who agrees with me that the cameras have already delivered an improvement in driver behaviour has been challenged by the remarkable Danny Alexander who thinks he is "wrong" and that the cameras will force drivers onto "other routes". I'd be interested to find the other viable routes that connect Inverness to Perth. Poor Danny, he'd be better served by encouraging better driving rather than indulging himself with fatuous nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What? Fergus Ewing has statistics, as published in the Inverness Courier,* that prove Norwegian cameras have reduced fatalities.* People are living now that would otherwise have died. People are living now that would otherwise have died. Anybody that can counter that better have a good argument. Meanwhile the sober Chief Superintendent Julian Innes who agrees with me that the cameras have already delivered an improvement in driver behaviour has been challenged by the remarkable Danny Alexander who thinks he is "wrong" and that the cameras will force drivers onto "other routes". I'd be interested to find the other viable routes that connect Inverness to Perth. Poor Danny, he'd be better served by encouraging better driving rather than indulging himself with fatuous nonsense. *I don't fucking think so* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 What? Fergus Ewing has statistics, as published in the Inverness Courier, that prove Norwegian cameras have reduced fatalities. People are living now that would otherwise have died. People are living now that would otherwise have died. Anybody that can counter that better have a good argument. Meanwhile the sober Chief Superintendent Julian Innes who agrees with me that the cameras have already delivered an improvement in driver behaviour has been challenged by the remarkable Danny Alexander who thinks he is "wrong" and that the cameras will force drivers onto "other routes". I'd be interested to find the other viable routes that connect Inverness to Perth. Poor Danny, he'd be better served by encouraging better driving rather than indulging himself with fatuous nonsense. Not Inverness to Perth but it's quicker for me to go Dundee to pitlochry via coupar Angus than via Perth now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The world needs more speeders. Keep Scotland moving (quickly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If the average speed cameras are a stop gap until the A9 is completely dual carriageway, why are there cameras on the section between Dunblane and Perth ? This stretch is already dualled and has been for quite some time as well as already having fixed speed cameras and spots used regularly by mobile cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If the average speed cameras are a stop gap until the A9 is completely dual carriageway, why are there cameras on the section between Dunblane and Perth ? This stretch is already dualled and has been for quite some time as well as already having fixed speed cameras and spots used regularly by mobile cameras. The argument always trotted out by the Safety Partnership people , is the camera/vans are placed in areas with an accident history. That is a load of tommyrot.. They use to sit in a layby just south of Queen Victoria school on the A9 in Dunblane. I have never seen an accident there. Meanwhile while a mile south at the Keir roundabout it is carnage and people have been killed. It would be interesting to see the amount of fines these vans brought in. I am not condoning speeding but please give as credit for some intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young buck Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 First time done since they were switched on. Unless the trucks are put to 60 this is a disaster. I could live with constant 60 but 40 sometimes 20(caused by being in a mile long tail back behind a truck) is a really frustrating place to be in. I had plenty of time and was in no hurry but I still felt the tingle of a quiet rage. If I was needing to get somewhere I would have been taking risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The argument always trotted out by the Safety Partnership people , is the camera/vans are placed in areas with an accident history. That is a load of tommyrot.. They use to sit in a layby just south of Queen Victoria school on the A9 in Dunblane. I have never seen an accident there. Meanwhile while a mile south at the Keir roundabout it is carnage and people have been killed. It would be interesting to see the amount of fines these vans brought in. I am not condoning speeding but please give as credit for some intelligence. A traffic cop told me that they park the vans on straight sections before accident hot spots to get vehicles to slow down and think about their speed before they reach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 First time done since they were switched on. Unless the trucks are put to 60 this is a disaster. I could live with constant 60 but 40 sometimes 20(caused by being in a mile long tail back behind a truck) is a really frustrating place to be in. I had plenty of time and was in no hurry but I still felt the tingle of a quiet rage. If I was needing to get somewhere I would have been taking risks. Roadrager caught. The system works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I've travelled the A9 to Inverness and beyond a few times since the cameras were switched on, and would say the overall effect is a slower journey with the same number of dangerous arseholes present. Car drivers seem so paranoid about their average speed that they sit at 50 or less with an open road in front of them. The number of times I've been at the back of a long line of traffic at 49mph and looked ahead to see a car holding everyone up is ridiculous. I'm sure there are statistics and models from elsewhere showing that average speed cameras reduce fatal accidents, but excessive speed so obviously isn't the problem on the A9. I've seen just as many morons overtaking a line of 10 cars then forcing others to brake to let them in when they run out of road or face oncoming traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 First time done since they were switched on. Unless the trucks are put to 60 this is a disaster. I could live with constant 60 but 40 sometimes 20(caused by being in a mile long tail back behind a truck) is a really frustrating place to be in. I had plenty of time and was in no hurry but I still felt the tingle of a quiet rage. If I was needing to get somewhere I would have been taking risks.The HGV limit has been increased to 50mph on the A9. No lorries travel at 60mph anyway, 56mph is max but plenty are restricted to 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The HGV limit has been increased to 50mph on the A9. No lorries travel at 60mph anyway, 56mph is max but plenty are restricted to 50. I'd say most travel at 60 according to my speedo, which probably means around 56. Haven't been on the A9 since the cameras though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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