invergowrie arab Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think the dafuq was abut the term 'the rest of Scotland' - which somehow suggests that Newcastle is in Scotland. Your a good man. I wouldn't have the patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Not all of them. And not as a collective entity. But by god I hate that parasite Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Hate the English? Never thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Haven't seen it but apparently her conclusion is no. Which surprised her. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Henry McLeish giving Better Together a kicking on Scotland Tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Henry McLeish giving Better Together a kicking on Scotland Tonight. Operation " save Labour" has been activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I find it strange that Better Together have decided to rebrand themselves as No Thanks. Is that something you usually do when you're apparently 20 odd points ahead in the poll? I don't know any companies that decided to do a major rebranding when successful, it's usually the other way about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I find it strange that Better Together have decided to rebrand themselves as No Thanks. Is that something you usually do when you're apparently 20 odd points ahead in the poll? I don't know any companies that decided to do a major rebranding when successful, it's usually the other way about Do you think they might have Gerald Ratner helping out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 This email excerpt (from Aberdeenshire West CLP) was just posted on the Yes Aberdeen Volunteers page. Looks like they expect a lot of yes votes from the Central Belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Against all odds Posted on June 09, 2014 by Rev. Stuart Campbell The Daily Record carries a story this evening about a man placing a £200,000 bet with William Hill on a No vote in the independence referendum. A punter is so sure of a No vote in the Independence referendum he has put a record £200,000 on the result. The bet equalled the biggest sum wagered on politics in the UK. The revelation came yesterday from bookie William Hill, where the gambler made three hefty bets on the status quo being maintained. The man, in his 50s, walked into a shop in Glasgow and put £30,000 on the counter, taking odds of 1/5 on a No vote. He then came back later that day and stuck on another £70,000. And the next day he turned up with another £100,000 in cash, which he stuck on despite the odds shortening to 1/6. If Scots vote to stay in the Union he will win £36,000. And readers might be forgiven for finding it a bit familiar. A CUSTOMER IN A William Hill Glasgow betting shop has gambled £200,000 believed to be the largest political bet ever struck that the outcome of the 2014 Scottish Referendum will be a vote AGAINST Independence. We have never taken a bigger bet than this on any political subject. said Hills spokesman Graham Sharpe. The man, in his late fifties, with a pronounced Scottish accent, and a stranger to staff, struck one bet of £30,000 at odds of 1/5, then returned to place another, of £70,000 at the same odds, before placing a third, of £100,000 at odds by now shortened to 1/6. He stands to make a total profit of £36,666. That second quote is from the William Hill website, almost exactly a year ago. And when an alert reader spotted it, we were about to dismiss is as one of the weird database quirks that you sometimes see in online newspapers where an old story will occasionally appear to have been printed today unless you look very closely at the dateline, because we clearly remembered the bet being reported widely at the time. That was until we read this bit in the Record article: The revelation came with 100 days to go before the referendum. Theres no mistake here. And no innocent confusion by a careless hack lifting the story off the internet without noticing the year either, because the Hills story is dated the 24th of June 2013, and eagle-eyed calendar watchers will of course be aware that its currently only the 9th of June this year. (Hills current odds for a No vote have gotten rather more generous since then as the polls have narrowed, with a rather more lucrative 1/4 on offer, which would have netted the punter £50,000 in profit in the event of a No rather than £36,667 had he actually placed it this month well over a third more.) Readers can speculate for themselves why the Record has chosen to run whats obviously an old story in an attempt to make it look like people are putting their money on a No vote. But were not taking any bets. Poor equity IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Goodness me, worrying times for all at Newcastle Airport. Jesus. Radio Scotland ran all day with this yesterday. The way they were spinning this was that Newcastle Airport was the largest employer in the North East (3000 people). Now I don't have figures to be specific, but if you've ever needed to call a government agency or BT you usually end up at a Newcastle call centre so I doubt this is true. Is this the new tactic of BT to make us feel guilty? Why are we to feel guilty when England or the rUK are potentially losing out, but not when large swathes of Scotland have been shut down over the years. Better together, pooling and sharing resources etc, etc. Did the people of the North East jump up and down when the steelworks in Scotland were systematically destroyed? I'm sorry that anyone has to live in this country that gets shafted constantly by Westminster, but we have a chance to change it. My experience of people from Newcastle is as nice, and as friendly as they are, when it comes down to it they really don't give a shit about Scotland. The North East had their chance to have an assembly, but they overwhelmingly rejected it. If they want to be tied to Westminster that's fine by me, but they can f**k right off if they think I am going to care about potential repercussions of what will happen when we are trying to make our own lives better. Call it selfish if you want and no doubt the usual suspects will jump on this, but there comes a point when you have to stand up for yourselves. There is only so long that you can keep taking one for the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Radio Scotland ran all day with this yesterday. The way they were spinning this was that Newcastle Airport was the largest employer in the North East (3000 people). Now I don't have figures to be specific, but if you've ever needed to call a government agency or BT you usually end up at a Newcastle call centre so I doubt this is true. Is this the new tactic of BT to make us feel guilty? Why are we to feel guilty when England or the rUK are potentially losing out, but not when large swathes of Scotland have been shut down over the years. Better together, pooling and sharing resources etc, etc. Did the people of the North East jump up and down when the steelworks in Scotland were systematically destroyed? I'm sorry that anyone has to live in this country that gets shafted constantly by Westminster, but we have a chance to change it. My experience of people from Newcastle is as nice, and as friendly as they are, when it comes down to it they really don't give a shit about Scotland. The North East had their chance to have an assembly, but they overwhelmingly rejected it. If they want to be tied to Westminster that's fine by me, but they can f**k right off if they think I am going to care about potential repercussions of what will happen when we are trying to make our own lives better. Call it selfish if you want and no doubt the usual suspects will jump on this, but there comes a point when you have to stand up for yourselves. There is only so long that you can keep taking one for the team Poor Newcastle. Poor BBC. Another who cares headline story. Sorry Banterman, but I dont care about the North of England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Another senior Labour type has jumped ship to yes,im hearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Another senior Labour type has jumped ship to yes,im hearing Hope its not JoLo. Be a step backwards for YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The North East had their chance to have an assembly, but they overwhelmingly rejected it. If they want to be tied to Westminster that's fine by me, but they can f**k right off if they think I am going to care about potential repercussions of what will happen when we are trying to make our own lives better. Call it selfish if you want and no doubt the usual suspects will jump on this, but there comes a point when you have to stand up for yourselves. There is only so long that you can keep taking one for the team Poor Newcastle. Poor BBC. Another who cares headline story. Sorry Banterman, but I dont care about the North of England. I've no issue with these points of view. Completely understandable and valid. I think we can shelve the "independence will be good for the North of england" chat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 My old man, who à la banterman is a monkey with a red rosette kinda guy, has decided he's going to vote Yes. Pleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I've no issue with these points of view. Completely understandable and valid. I think we can shelve the "independence will be good for the North of england" chat though. The only thing that MIGHT help the north of England is a major political shake up. Unless you think the peoples candidate Ed Milliband is going to help You seem to be in agreement that no one in Westminster gives a shit about the north of England but you are quite happy to vote for the status quo. If they don't care about Newcastle and Liverpool then they certainly don't care about Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The only thing that MIGHT help the north of England is a major political shake up. Unless you think the peoples candidate Ed Milliband is going to help You seem to be in agreement that no one in Westminster gives a shit about the north of England but you are quite happy to vote for the status quo. If they don't care about Newcastle and Liverpool then they certainly don't care about Scotland. Expect a Banterman reply using his favourite template "I've no problem with that point of view/ that's perfectly understandable, however...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The first point of order in an independent Scotland would be annexing Northumberland anyway. We'd be welcomed as liberators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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