Mr Bairn Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Imagine being a Scot on polling day and actually voting away your own money, your power to make decisions and voting to maintain a democratic deficit. What sort of person would actually do that? What benefits would thing bring to yourself, your family or your country? You're never going to have that money, or power. And the democratic deficit will always exist. The only political system that would actually get rid of those would be anarchy. All you're really choosing between is whether Edinburgh or London controls this. Let's not pretend there wouldn't be a democratic deficit in a lone Scotland, it's not like there aren't areas which influence the vote more than others. Plenty swing seats in Scottish elections.... -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Imagine being a Scot on polling day and actually voting away your own money, your power to make decisions and voting to maintain a democratic deficit. What sort of person would actually do that? What benefits would thing bring to yourself, your family or your country? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) Why do so many people mis-understand what is meant by a democratic deficit? Over to you , Mr.Bairn. Edited February 26, 2014 by forza ton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wonder what happens if it's a draw #scenes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 http://www.thecourier.co.uk/business/farming/news/nfus-west-fife-branch-give-a-strong-no-to-independence-1.242305 Time to pack it in lads its over ...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 http://www.thecourier.co.uk/business/farming/news/nfus-west-fife-branch-give-a-strong-no-to-independence-1.242305 Time to pack it in lads its over ...... The fermers being against progressive, democratic change? Who the f**k could've predicted that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Farmers have always traditionally been Conservative voters, which automatically leads to being a unionist. Edited February 27, 2014 by Fotbawmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 UK Polling Report website has selection of Polls since January 2012, only once is there a poll with Yes Scotland in the lead and that same poll is the only poll with "Yes" vote polling over 40% and that poll was done by Panalbase commissioned by the SNP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 UK Polling Report website has selection of Polls since January 2012, only once is there a poll with Yes Scotland in the lead and that same poll is the only poll with "Yes" vote polling over 40% and that poll was done by Panalbase commissioned by the SNP As far as I can see nobody is really saying that Yes is in the lead right now. There's still quite a long time to go - and there are a few small signs that the gap is narrowing. The BT campaign is also starting to look a little rattled by throwing ultimatums and threats into the mix, which usually isn't a good sign. I still think it will be very close. Yes still have it all to do but I'm still quite hopeful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) As far as I can see nobody is really saying that Yes is in the lead right now. There's still quite a long time to go - and there are a few small signs that the gap is narrowing. The BT campaign is also starting to look a little rattled by throwing ultimatums and threats into the mix, which usually isn't a good sign. I still think it will be very close. Yes still have it all to do but I'm still quite hopeful. The SNP have pretty much being campaigning since they won the last Scottish election in 2011, and they have a highly unpopular government in London, which should work in their favour, but the polls are not reflecting this, in my view Think both sides have looked a little "ragged" recently, but these polls show very little change since the publishing of the white paper, that was 4 months ago and only 200 days to go Edited March 2, 2014 by ecto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The SNP have pretty much being campaigning since they won the last Scottish election in 2011, and they have a highly unpopular government in London, which should work in their favour, but the polls are not reflecting this, in my view Think both sides have looked a little "ragged" recently, but these polls show very little change since the publishing of the white paper, that was 4 months ago and only 200 days to go 200 days is a long time in something like this. Plenty of folk aren't giving this serious thought so the real action will be in the last month or so. I think the Yes campaign are having to withstand heavy pressure but that was always going to be the case. BT seem to be trying to land a knock-out blow but that doesn't seem to have worked either. All to play for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yep because fear is driving the No vote and the slightest threat regardless of how laughable will cause some to uncontrollably shit their pants at the crucial moment. Whether we have enough voters brave enough to stand up to this tide of ridiculous bullying is debatable. We've missed you XBL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peleus Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 By the way, what usually happens here on a draw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 By the way, what usually happens here on a draw? penalties 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Aye, and severe penalties for a NO win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Aye, and severe penalties for a NO win. I want an assist for that one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I want an assist for that one! I can tap them in all day if I get the right service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublesome90 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The shame of the SNP publishing a press release today stating support for Independence was now above 40% when it's actually at 34%. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troublesome90 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 No they never. Here to help. They did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 They did. Who says? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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