pandarilla Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 What a bizarre thing to say. That yes voters are "making up their own minds" and anyone who votes no is simply "buying into the brand" Now I'm not denying the brand exists, hell it was me who brought it up, but it's a bit of a generalisation, No I said there are plenty of young folk who are engaging in the arguments. I never said they were just Yes voters but in my experience most of the politically aware kids are planning to vote Yes. Again, in my experience most of the disengaged or misinformed kids are voting No. But there are plenty of exceptions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joozy Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 No I said there are plenty of young folk who are engaging in the arguments. I never said they were just Yes voters but in my experience most of the politically aware kids are planning to vote Yes. Again, in my experience most of the disengaged or misinformed kids are voting No. But there are plenty of exceptions. Funnily enough, most of the people that I know who are as thick as pigshit are voting Yes. On the other hand, the smart and successful ones are breaking massively for No. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Funnily enough, most of the people that I know who are as thick as pigshit are voting Yes. On the other hand, the smart and successful ones are breaking massively for No. Aye funny that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I recently spoke to a someone from Abertay who said that he had only spoken to 3 students in his faculty who were for Yes - all were from outside the UK. The home students were either undecided or No. Edited March 28, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I spoke to everybody at a funeral and not one was voting yes.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I recently spoke to a someone from Abertay who said that he had only spoken to 3 students in his faculty who were for Yes - all were from outside the UK. The home students were either undecided or No. 31 of my 900 odd facebook friends have liked yes Scotland 48 have liked better together 3 of them are duplicates though. Edited March 28, 2014 by Mr Bairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Debate today at James Hamilton Academy, Kilmarnock. Before debate: Yes - 35% No - 42% DK - 23% Afterwards: Yes - 61% No - 39% DK - 0% Odd that there were no don't knows after the debate but good to see yet another school debate that swings overwhelmingly to Yes once the arguments have been heard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Debate today at James Hamilton Academy, Kilmarnock. Before debate: Yes - 35% No - 42% DK - 23% Afterwards: Yes - 61% No - 39% DK - 0% Odd that there were no don't knows after the debate but good to see yet another school debate that swings overwhelmingly to Yes once the arguments have been heard. Only 3% swing away from no, but yes hoovered up all of the undecided. Kinda what happened in 2011, Labour's vote held up but the Lib Dem vote swung right to the SNP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 31 of my 900 odd facebook friends have liked yes Scotland 48 have liked better together 3 of them are duplicates though. 11-2 facebook victory for Better Together for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Regarding the FB poll, 19/13 in favour of Yes Scotland for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 9 to six in favour of YES. However one on the BT page is a hard-nosed Yes voter and two on the Yes page I have met through the referendum campaign so in effect 7-5 in favour of Yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Meanwhile, how about the ATOS figures? Wasn't trolling. I believe we've covered that and I've gave you my answer, but feel free to continue your Yorkshire terrier impression. And oh yes you are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Another huge Yes victory to report in a mock referendum at Dundee & Angus college on Wednesday. Yes - 64.57% No - 35.43% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Another huge Yes victory to report in a mock referendum at Dundee & Angus college on Wednesday. Yes - 64.57% No - 35.43% No surprise there, it is in a SNP stronghold, would probably get the same result if you did a poll most places in Angus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've kept a note of many of these votes at schools and colleges. Gleaned from twitter where admittedly it's mostly fellow yessers I follow and who post these things so I'm maybe not seeing any info on debates and polls where No has won, but anyway... Dornoch Academy in February had 234 out of their 276 pupils vote in a mock referendum. Yes - 58.9%, No - 41.1% Again in February, a before and after debate poll from QM Uni. Before Yes - 59%, No - 41%; After Yes - 71%, No - 21%, DK - 8% 12/3 Glasgow Schools Debate. Yes - 64%, No - 15%, DK - 21% GCU Students Assoc debate, before and after. Yes - 54%, No - 20%, DK - 26%; Yes - 62%, No - 18%, DK - 20% And finally, Celtic Huddleboard, 490 out of 531 Yes (92.3%) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've kept a note of many of these votes at schools and colleges. Gleaned from twitter where admittedly it's mostly fellow yessers I follow and who post these things so I'm maybe not seeing any info on debates and polls where No has won, but anyway... Dornoch Academy in February had 234 out of their 276 pupils vote in a mock referendum. Yes - 58.9%, No - 41.1% Again in February, a before and after debate poll from QM Uni. Before Yes - 59%, No - 41%; After Yes - 71%, No - 21%, DK - 8% 12/3 Glasgow Schools Debate. Yes - 64%, No - 15%, DK - 21% GCU Students Assoc debate, before and after. Yes - 54%, No - 20%, DK - 26%; Yes - 62%, No - 18%, DK - 20% And finally, Celtic Huddleboard, 490 out of 531 Yes (92.3%) Really should have stopped after your 1st paragraph, not much point on going after that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Funnily enough, most of the people that I know who are as thick as pigshit are voting Yes. On the other hand, the smart and successful ones are breaking massively for No. I take it you are for yes with your pals then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Braveheart was 19 years ago. 19. Many school pupils (especially of voting age) have seen it but plenty have not. That was the late 90s tendency but since then the Team GB propaganda really has made headway. I don't understand it myself but hey ho, that's what it is. Whether or not they'll turn in large numbers depends on how well the Yes argument is put across. Many kids will not engage with this until the final few weeks of the campaign. I know, It was out just after I was born yet I know all about it, it's a Scottish movie, most Scottish kids will watch it, was shown countless times in school through history lessons ( know it is not 100 percent factual before anyone starts there shite ) kids of that age will have definitely seen it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) 31 of my 900 odd facebook friends have liked yes Scotland 48 have liked better together 3 of them are duplicates though. What's the current Facebook likes in total? Sure last time I looked Yes Scotland had 23,000 more? ETA: Yes Scotland: 141,000 Better Together: 115,000 Edited March 29, 2014 by 1320Lichtie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've kept a note of many of these votes at schools and colleges. Gleaned from twitter where admittedly it's mostly fellow yessers I follow and who post these things so I'm maybe not seeing any info on debates and polls where No has won, but anyway... Dornoch Academy in February had 234 out of their 276 pupils vote in a mock referendum. Yes - 58.9%, No - 41.1% Again in February, a before and after debate poll from QM Uni. Before Yes - 59%, No - 41%; After Yes - 71%, No - 21%, DK - 8% 12/3 Glasgow Schools Debate. Yes - 64%, No - 15%, DK - 21% GCU Students Assoc debate, before and after. Yes - 54%, No - 20%, DK - 26%; Yes - 62%, No - 18%, DK - 20% And finally, Celtic Huddleboard, 490 out of 531 Yes (92.3%) Says "schools and colleges"; quotes two university polls. Ignores GUIndyRef... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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