Jacksgranda Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If NO voters want to waist their ballot paper then carry on. Yeah your right. Not a good advert. I should just stick to calling you a fascist. Somebody will be along in a minute telling you to "belt up"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The Bairn acts like a wee lassie. The banana has a girl avatar. If it's a he, he has not made that clear. You are literally too stupid to debate with. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Great Clip. Does the Michael Bolton doppelganger from Harvard remind you of anyone on here? Guesses on a postcard please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Somebody will be along in a minute telling you to "belt up"... Ha. We'll spotted. Good banter as we'll. Take a bow Jack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You are literally too stupid to debate with. Should I be happy or sad about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I notice there's been a lot of this nonsense recently. It's one of the most dishonest arguments going. Scotland is not a bloc vote that's somehow not being represented. People don't vote down ethnic lines - bar the ethnic nationalists that troll these pages. People vote along political lines. If anything the argument is that the UK does not get the government it votes for because of FPTP. One could also say that becsuse of the disproprotionate nature of AMS that Scotland did not get the government it voted for in 2011 either. I can understand that a case can be made for bringing government closer to the people - that's a different argument altogether. However, I believe it can be done in a better way than the pseudo-independence on offer. The SNP got 23, of the votes of all of those eligible to vote in 2011, but many of these votes were protest votes or tactical votes. This gave them a majority of seats in Holyrood. In the 2014 Euro elections the SNP got about 29%. Probably a good indicator of their yes vote in the referendum. As for Scotland being a fairer place. Just ask the Shetland islanders who were denied the right to self determination by the SNP dominated Holyrood when their petition for their own referendum was rejected by the SNP dominated Holyrood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes. You seem to find this surprising for some reason. Almost as many Scots voted for the current Westminster government, as voted for the current Holyrood administration Yes; almost. The union contains constituent countries. My country, Scotland, has a democratic deficit when Westminster governments are elected. There is no disputing this. What no voters could say is "I can accept the deficit as I believe the benefits are outweighed by our loss of democracy". They could say this but they don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 This threads fucking terrible 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes; almost. The union contains constituent countries. It contains constituencies. Each constituency elects an MP. Scotland is actually marginally overrepresented as a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It contains constituencies. Each constituency elects an MP. Scotland is actually marginally overrepresented as a region. We should be grateful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Turns out it was 63/37. Wasn't too far off. 43% yes, 25% no 32% undecided. What a massive surprise. Good enough to get you seething 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 The SNP got 23, of the votes of all of those eligible to vote in 2011, but many of these votes were protest votes or tactical votes. This gave them a majority of seats in Holyrood. In the 2014 Euro elections the SNP got about 29%. Probably a good indicator of their yes vote in the referendum. As for Scotland being a fairer place. Just ask the Shetland islanders who were denied the right to self determination by the SNP dominated Holyrood when their petition for their own referendum was rejected by the SNP dominated Holyrood. Holyrood doesn't have the power to grant or deny the Shetlands independence you weapon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 It contains constituencies. Each constituency elects an MP. Scotland is actually marginally overrepresented as a region. In terms of population. Its 10% underrepresented in terms of financial input. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 In terms of population. Its 10% underrepresented in terms of financial input. He's just trying to be a smart arse and assert that Scotland is a region. Where as everyone with a modicum of common sense knows otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazelle Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Is there a P+B poll? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Holyrood doesn't have the power to grant or deny the Shetlands independence you weapon. The petition was requested in the event of a yes vote on September 18. Do you expect me to do all the work for you. You blank bullet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Is there a P+B poll? Yes. It doesn't count though because Yes is utterly raping No on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He's just trying to be a smart arse and assert that Scotland is a region. Where as everyone with a modicum of common sense knows otherwise. Scotland is a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. Aye. In the same way as the CS is a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. That's like saying Tesco is a shoe box. Or I go to work on a fridge. It makes no sense. Scotland is a country. www.thefreedictionary.com/Scotland A constituent country of the United Kingdom www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ScotlandCachedSimilar country N Great Britain www.answers.com/topic/scotland A constituent country of the United Kingdom www.explorescotland.net/holiday-in-scotland/scotland-the-country/ Scotland is very much a country in it own right. www.hbscircusofinternationallaw.com Scotland is a region 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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