H_B Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He's just trying to be a smart arse and assert that Scotland is a region. Where as everyone with a modicum of common sense knows otherwise. Scotland is a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. Aye. In the same way as the CS is a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. That's like saying Tesco is a shoe box. Or I go to work on a fridge. It makes no sense. Scotland is a country. www.thefreedictionary.com/Scotland A constituent country of the United Kingdom www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ScotlandCachedSimilar country N Great Britain www.answers.com/topic/scotland A constituent country of the United Kingdom www.explorescotland.net/holiday-in-scotland/scotland-the-country/ Scotland is very much a country in it own right. www.hbscircusofinternationallaw.com Scotland is a region 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. Yet we have our own legal system, health system, education system, our own Parliament. We also have a national animal, flower, anthem and our own capital city. You my friend are talking out your arse yet again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yet we have our own legal system, health system, education system, our own Parliament. We also have a national animal, flower, anthem and our own capital city. You my friend are talking out your arse yet again. These aren't the preserves of "countries" champ. It's another day of fail for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 These aren't the preserves of "countries" champ. It's another day of fail for you. Which regions have all of these ? We are a country which has entered into a union. We are one of the oldest countries in Europe. I can't remember seeing any regions competing in the Commonwealth games. Everyone can see how wrong you are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland is a region. If we vote no then I would agree with this. You can't claim to be a country yet let another country make all the important decisions on your behalf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 These aren't the preserves of "countries" champ. It's another day of fail for you. Cue H_B boring us all with overuse of "Westphalian" and "Sovereign states". Scotland is a country. Arguing otherwise is ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Do any other No voters agree with H_B that Scotland is not a country? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryfield Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Do any other No voters agree with H_B that Scotland is not a country? Scotland, as seen by Scots and rUK residents is a country. Maybe it's just the EU who see Scotland as merely a region, or as Viviane Reding said in her letter to McKelvie, a territory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Scotland, as seen by Scots and rUK residents is a country. Maybe it's just the EU who see Scotland as merely a region, or as Viviane Reding said in her letter to McKelvie, a territory. mep_map.gif Looks like England were extinguished as a matter of European Law according to that map IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 So HB is saying Scotland is a region therefore there is no democratic deficit. Fine. It's bullshit but hey ho. Funny how no-one else from better together will call Scotland a region. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Today a common way to define a country is say that if it's a member of the United Nations, it's a country. However, the Holy See, or Vatican, isn't a member of the United Nations, but it certainly is a country. The United Kingdom is a member of the United Nations, but the countries of England, Scotland and Ireland aren't, so by the UN rule, they aren't countries. That of course goes against what the UK government states where it declares that " The United Kingdom is made up of four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. " So yes voters should be supporting the UK Gov. You know it makes sense! So, if you really want to know how many countries there are, first select the definition you want to use, then allow for where you are and what political views you have, then you have a chance of making an educated guess at the answer! However the following are generally accepted as Countries. Afghanistan - Kabul Albania - Tirane Algeria - Algiers Andorra - Andorra la Vella Angola - Luanda Antigua and Barbuda - Saint John's Argentina - Buenos Aires Armenia - Yerevan Australia - Canberra Austria - Vienna Azerbaijan - Baku [Top of Page] B The Bahamas - Nassau Bahrain - Manama Bangladesh - Dhaka Barbados - Bridgetown Belarus - Minsk Belgium - Brussels Belize - Belmopan Benin - Porto-Novo Bhutan - Thimphu Bolivia - La Paz (administrative) Sucre (judicial) Bosnia and Herzegovina - Sarajevo Botswana - Gaborone Brazil - Brasilia Brunei - Bandar Seri Begawan Bulgaria - Sofia Burkina Faso - Ouagadougou Burundi - Bujumbura [Top of Page] C Cambodia - Phnom Penh Cameroon - Yaounde Canada - Ottawa Cape Verde - Praia Central African Republic - Bangui Chad - N'Djamena Chile - Santiago China - Beijing Colombia - Bogota Comoros - Moroni Congo, Republic of the - Brazzaville Congo, Democratic Republic of the - Kinshasa Costa Rica - San Jose Cote d'Ivoire - Yamoussoukro (official) Abidjan (de facto) Croatia - Zagreb Cuba - Havana Cyprus - Nicosia Czech Republic - Prague [Top of Page] D Denmark - Copenhagen Djibouti - Djibouti Dominica - Roseau Dominican Republic - Santo Domingo [Top of Page] E East Timor - Dili Ecuador - Quito Egypt - Cairo El Salvador - San Salvador Equatorial Guinea - Malabo Eritrea - Asmara Estonia - Tallinn Ethiopia - Addis Ababa [Top of Page] F Fiji - Suva Finland - Helsinki France - Paris [Top of Page] G Gabon - Libreville Gambia (The)- Banjul Georgia - Tbilisi Germany - Berlin Ghana - Accra Greece - Athens Grenada - Saint George's Guatemala - Guatemala City Guinea - Conakry Guinea-Bissau - Bissau Guyana - Georgetown [Top of Page] H Haiti - Port-au-Prince Honduras - Tegucigalpa Hungary - Budapest [Top of Page] I Iceland - Reykjavik India - New Delhi Indonesia - Jakarta Iran - Tehran Iraq - Baghdad Ireland (Southern)- Dublin Israel - Jerusalem Italy - Rome [Top of Page] J Jamaica - Kingston Japan - Tokyo Jordan - Amman [Top of Page] K Kazakhstan - Astana Kenya - Nairobi Kiribati - Tarawa Korea, North - Pyongyang Korea, South - Seoul Kuwait - Kuwait City Kyrgyzstan - Bishtek [Top of Page] L Laos - Vientiane Latvia - Riga Lebanon - Beirut Lesotho - Maseru Liberia - Monrovia Libya - Tripoli Liechtenstein - Vaduz Lithuania - Vilnius Luxembourg - Luxembourg [Top of Page] M Macedonia - Skopje Madagascar - Antananarivo Malawi - Lilongwe Malaysia - Kuala Lumpur Maldives - Male Mali - Bamako Malta - Valletta Marshall Islands - Majuro Mauritania - Nouakchott Mauritius - Port Louis Mexico - Mexico City Federated States of Micronesia - Palikir Moldova - Chisinau Monaco - Monaco Mongolia - Ulaanbaatar Montenegro - Podgorica Morocco - Rabat Mozambique - Maputo Myanmar (Burma) - Rangoon but moving to Pyinmana [Top of Page] N Namibia - Windhoek Nauru - has no official capital Nepal - Kathmandu Netherlands - Amsterdam New Zealand - Wellington Nicaragua - Managua Niger - Niamey Nigeria - Abuja Norway - Oslo [Top of Page] O Oman - Muscat [Top of Page] P Pakistan - Islamabad Palau - Koror Panama - Panama City Papua New Guinea - Port Moresby Paraguay - Asuncion Peru - Lima Philippines - Manila Poland - Warsaw Portugal - Lisbon [Top of Page] Q Qatar - Doha [Top of Page] R Romania - Bucharest Russia - Moscow Rwanda - Kigali [Top of Page] S Saint Kitts and Nevis - Basseterre Saint Lucia - Castries Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - Kingstown Samoa - Apia San Marino - San Marino Sao Tome and Principe - Sao Tome Saudi Arabia - Riyadh Senegal - Dakar Serbia and Montenegro - Belgrade Seychelles - Victoria Sierra Leone - Freetown Singapore - Singapore Slovakia - Bratislava Slovenia - Ljubljana Solomon Islands - Honiara Somalia - Mogadishu South Africa - Pretoria (administrative) Bloemfontein (judiciary) and Cape Town (legislative) Spain - Madrid Sri Lanka - Colombo Sudan - Khartoum Suriname - Paramaribo Swaziland - Mbabana Sweden - Stockholm Switzerland - Bern Syria - Damascus [Top of Page] T Taiwan - Taipei Tajikistan - Dushanbe Tanzania - Dar es Salaam Thailand - Bangkok Togo - Lome Tonga - Nuku'alofa Trinidad and Tobago - Port-of-Spain Tunisia - Tunis Turkey - Ankara Turkmenistan - Ashgabat Tuvalu - Funafuti [Top of Page] U Uganda - Kampala Ukraine - Kiev United Arab Emirates (UAE)- Abu Dhabi United Kingdom - London United States - Washington D.C. Uruguay - Montevideo Uzbekistan - Tashkent [Top of Page] V Vanuatu - Port-Vila Vatican City (Holy See) - Vatican City Venezuela - Caracas Vietnam - Hanoi [Top of Page] W [Top of Page] X [Top of Page] Y Yemen - Sanaa [Top of Page] Z Zambia - Lusaka Zimbabwe - Harare [Top of Page] -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Man, No voters hate Scotland don't they? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) The petition was requested in the event of a yes vote on September 18. Do you expect me to do all the work for you. You blank bullet. Yes, because all governments definitely like to waste time on taking hypothetical scenairos seriously on the back off no more signatures than that of a small village. Come back with that question if there actually is a Yes vote, otherwise quit acting like a Willie Rennie and stop wasting people's time. Edited August 19, 2014 by the jambo-rocker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scothmist Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Yes, because all governments definitely like to waste time on taking hypothetical things seriously. Come back with that question if there actually is a Yes vote, otherwise quit acting like a Willie Rennie and stop wasting people's time. Of course they do ya spent bullet. It keeps them occupied, and makes them look like they are doing something. "Come back with that question if there actually is a Yes vote" I like it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I meant more self-selection among respondees than the RIC. Given that the RIC announce in advance that they're going to be mass canvassing a particular area, some may choose to just ignore the knock at the door - especially if they look out of the window and see a bunch of canvassers going round the neighbours. As you said earlier, the response rate would be interesting, but I don't think they publish that. Also unlike with BPC polling, you've got no guarantees about how the question is asked, what else is being asked etc. I'd be amazed if their latest poll doesn't show something like 65/35 in favour of yes. Given who's behind RIC I'd suggest that they make up the figures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Given who's behind RIC I'd suggest that they make up the figures. Yeah, you'll need to provide proof of that and reasoning for such a pompous statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Given who's behind RIC I'd suggest that they make up the figures. I have my own concerns about how the numbers have been gathered but on the basis of canvassing I have done I wouldn't be at all surprised to see 60-40 for yes in the areas RIC have been canvassing. What conclusions you can draw from it though I have no idea given the turnout from these areas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Of course they do ya spent bullet. It keeps them occupied, and makes them look like they are doing something. "Come back with that question if there actually is a Yes vote" I like it Well done on spectacularly missing the point. Spent bullet. x 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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