ICTJohnboy Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 First poll on independence as far as I'm aware since 18th Sept. Good to see support for independence hasn't diminished, in fact it's increased! YouGov -: Should Scotland be an independent country? Yes 52% (+7) No 48% (-7) That must REALLY hurt Au Contraire. It merely suggests that the campaign for an independent Scotland will go on and on. It's far from dead in the water. You're not going to change the way people think about that. The annihilation of Labour and the Tories (in Scotland) at the May election will herald the dawn of a new era in Scottish politics. Mark my words. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 That must REALLY hurt C'mon admit it, you're getting that sick feeling again. This is not really going to plan since the No vote is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Au Contraire. It merely suggests that the campaign for an independent Scotland will go on and on. It's far from dead in the water. You're not going to change the way people think about that. The annihilation of Labour and the Tories (in Scotland) at the May election will herald the dawn of a new era in Scottish politics. Mark my words. 2 months later? Of course there'll be fervour for 2 years for independence but once the fact that there won't be a referendum for years sets in and the students get jobs, people get disillusioned by Nicola, it'll die out. People are no longer patient. In days gone by they were but now they get fed up quickly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 C'mon admit it, you're getting that sick feeling again. This is not really going to plan since the No vote is it? Are you still dropping tears on your keyboard and trying to influence people to change their minds? Ah now I know how those No to Yes conversion anecdotes really panned out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 2 months later? Of course there'll be fervour for 2 years for independence but once the fact that there won't be a referendum for years sets in and the students get jobs, people get disillusioned by Nicola, it'll die out. People are no longer patient. In days gone by they were but now they get fed up quickly Disillusioned? I honestly thought when the referendum was announced (Edinburgh Agreement) October, 2012, that No would win by the proverbial landslide. Westminster got the fright of their fucking lives in that final 2 weeks of the campaign. That fact alone will ensure that the fight and the movement towards independence will continue unabated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Settled will of the people... aye right! http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-66-back-new-referendum-1-3590293 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Settled will of the people... aye right! http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-66-back-new-referendum-1-3590293 Yes they settled it for all of 6 weeks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Yes they settled it for all of 6 weeks! So the majority have now decided in 6 weeks that they'd vote Yes. If only that pesky referendum would be permitted next Tuesday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The good guys called this all along. I knew the no vote was very likely in September, but it's obvious that the Scottish Parliament will now get more powers after all the promises. If not, the Westminster parties seriously risk alienating soft no voters. The SNP will continue to show competent governance after these powers are delivered and when the last of the post-imperial old codgers die off, independence is an inevitability in 10, 15, 20 years time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 The good guys called this all along. I knew the no vote was very likely in September, but it's obvious that the Scottish Parliament will now get more powers after all the promises. If not, the Westminster parties seriously risk alienating soft no voters. The SNP will continue to show competent governance after these powers are delivered and when the last of the post-imperial old codgers die off, independence is an inevitability in 10, 15, 20 years time. ^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Big problems this laddy has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I honestly thought when the referendum was announced (Edinburgh Agreement) October, 2012, that No would win by the proverbial landslide. And you were correct. Well done. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) And you were correct. Well done. They had the question. They had a TWO YEAR long campaign (the longest campaign in political history here. They were allowed to decide who could vote. They were able to decide WHEN the vote was to be. They had access to the lottery winners cash. They had far more activists. They had the government machine at Holyrood to use. They had british civil servants operating on their behalf They still took a total gubbing. Edited November 1, 2014 by Reynard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 They had the question. They had a TWO YEAR long campaign (the longest campaign in political history here. They were allowed to decide who could vote. They were able to decide WHEN the vote was to be. They had access to the lottery winners cash. They had far more activists. They had the government machine at Holyrood to use. They had british civil servants operating on their behalf They still took a total gubbing. You forgot to mention they had the power of the entire mainstream media at their disposal. And of course the good old-fashioned British establishment to tap for funding, favours, and string that require pulling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 You forgot to mention they had the power of the entire mainstream media at their disposal. And of course the good old-fashioned British establishment to tap for funding, favours, and string that require pulling. If you are talking about newspapers then fair enough. But as we all know, newspaper circulation has been in decline since the internet fired up. The nats had by FAR a bigger online presence which we were assured by the clown collective would be VERY significant for them at the start of this. You still lost. Heavily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 If you are talking about newspapers then fair enough. But as we all know, newspaper circulation has been in decline since the internet fired up. The nats had by FAR a bigger online presence which we were assured by the clown collective would be VERY significant for them at the start of this. You still lost. Heavily. In decline yeah but still a main-stay for thousands of folk in Scotland - especially the older ones who voted No. in future years the newspapers will play even less of a role. The Yes campaign will also have a campaign to deal with the BBC bias - which took a few folk by surprise I reckon. The online presence was due to the fact that young, engaged people were usually Yes voters and that isn't going to change in the future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Another utter disaster for the Britnats: it's like a day by day destruction of their remaining claims. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 You forgot to mention they had the power of the entire mainstream media at their disposal. And of course the good old-fashioned British establishment to tap for funding, favours, and string that require pulling. Like The Guardian? They have a poll telling us that an independence referendum would return a "Yes" with the caveat that it would have to be held today. It's been quoted by your chronies and indeed celebrated by you. So are they part of a conspiracy or an ally? Can you alleviate my confusion at this anomaly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Another utter disaster for the Britnats: it's like a day by day destruction of their remaining claims. Yeah one day it was 55% and now we're being told by lunatic, tear stained, screaming schemies that it's gonnae happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 You never shut your trap about the Middle East and you know nothing about it aside from some leftie websites or biased news reports. Maybe you should educate yourself a bit more? Ask him about mince fc... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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