Jmothecat2 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Whilst my preference would be to strip up titles I'm struggling to get worked go by it. The club involved don't even exist any more and if Milne is more concerned about the Dons and the future of Scottish Football then great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I agree with wiggy. We all know they cheated and died. Who cares what the records of a corrupt administration say? looking back is for the OF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Still, he's backing his manager with finances again this season, eh? It's not his money that's being spent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I am finding some of the reaction on Dons Twitter to be a bit much. I sometimes get the impression there's an element of the Aberdeen support that hate the old firm more than they love the Dons. It's just a bit of an overreaction to something I personally find it hard to get worked up about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneetrembler Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I sometimes get the impression an element of the Aberdeen support that hate the old firm more than they love the Dons. There is no doubt this is the case. However, these folks also tend to be the Hard Core Top Reds that only show up for big games and when they do, moan and berate the team if they are not winning 5 nil. Edited July 22, 2017 by Kneetrembler typo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow-sheep Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'd rather they were stripped of the titles but agree I struggle to get overly worked up about it. The bigger concern is the precedent it sets, the lack of any real financial fair play rules and the general lack of accountability. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naegoodinthedark Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Think it's comments made by a man trying to get planning approval for a new stadium. Get the tories on side. Agree with comments above about some Dons fans. They put far too much effort into getting upset about the cheating c***s. As far as I'm concerned, they cheated, died and continue to provide me with laughs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm quite surprised at the tacit approval of Stewart Milne's position here. Stewart Milne is looking out for Stewart Milne and throwing the sporting rulebook out of the window in the interests of self-preservation and profit... ...these are some of the same motivations that influenced Rangers to cheat then die. I thought we were, mostly, against that and believed that cheats must be punished. It seems that the Dons are quite happy and willing to forgive and forget now that they've got a bit of cash, are building a new stadium and a good team. Money and success certainly does shorten memories it seems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm quite surprised at the tacit approval of Stewart Milne's position here. Stewart Milne is looking out for Stewart Milne and throwing the sporting rulebook out of the window in the interests of self-preservation and profit... ...these are some of the same motivations that influenced Rangers to cheat then die. I thought we were, mostly, against that and believed that cheats must be punished. It seems that the Dons are quite happy and willing to forgive and forget now that they've got a bit of cash, are building a new stadium and a good team. Money and success certainly does shorten memories it seems. Yes, I care a hell of a lot more about my team than what the chairman's opinion on the correct punishment is for a club that don't even exist any more. Personally I would be in favour of stripping the titles, but so long as Milne is supporting the club and supporting McInnes he can have any opinion he wants on the matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: Yes, I care a hell of a lot more about my team than what the chairman's opinion on the correct punishment is for a club that don't even exist any more. Personally I would be in favour of stripping the titles, but so long as Milne is supporting the club and supporting McInnes he can have any opinion he wants on the matter. Which is tacitly approving the chairman of your own club's position, and his statement that as "Chairman of Aberdeen football club" he sees cheating that has went on should be overlooked. Because, strangely, it is "in the past". If I was an Aberdeen fan I'd distance myself from that position as clearly as possible and express disgust in any way that I could. When my chairman comes out and does similar, and I expect him to, then I'll do just that. However much of an obstacle I am to expressing his view, which is minuscule, it is still correct to do so. If all fans do the opposite, you know - "meh", then it's a free pass for all chairman of all clubs, for the SPFL, the SFA and anyone else with an interest to sweep this sorry episode under the carpet. As an aside, "We're alright jack", doesn't seem to me to sit very well with the aims and ideals of those on the left of the political spectrum. Shouldn't you care "a hell of a lot more" about the environment in which your team resides, making that fair and meaningful, at least as much as the wellbeing of your team itself? Edited July 22, 2017 by Shades75 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherchance Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Read something this morning about Milne's comments being an attempt to sook up to the Unionist councillors in order to help with the new stadium vote in the autumn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Which is tacitly approving the chairman of your own club's position, and his statement that as "Chairman of Aberdeen football club" he sees cheating that has went on should be overlooked. Because, strangely, it is "in the past". If I was an Aberdeen fan I'd distance myself from that position as clearly as possible and express disgust in any way that I could. When my chairman comes out and does similar, and I expect him to, then I'll do just that. However much of an obstacle I am to expressing his view, which is minuscule, it is still correct to do so. If all fans do the opposite, you know - "meh", then it's a free pass for all chairman of all clubs, for the SPFL, the SFA and anyone else with an interest to sweep this sorry episode under the carpet. As an aside, "We're alright jack", doesn't seem to me to sit very well with the aims and ideals of those on the left of the political spectrum. Shouldn't you care "a hell of a lot more" about the environment in which your team resides, making that fair and meaningful, at least as much as the wellbeing of your team itself? I really don't care that much about this issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Instead of giving Aberdeen fans a hard time about the baldy snakes comments fans of other teams would do well to pressure their own clubs/chairman about the distinct lack of anything being said, and I include my own club in that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I really don't care that much about this issue. Cheating? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Romeo said: Instead of giving Aberdeen fans a hard time about the baldy snakes comments fans if other would do well to pressure their own clubs/chairman about the Dustin team lack of anything being said, and I include my own club in that. I think Aberdeen fans led the way in the early days. I think that a lot of them still are. I'm just a little dismayed that, for some, now that goals and glory are being delivered, Milne can do and say what he likes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Enough knicker wetting, m9. Too much paragraphs, big words and punctuation? I'll dumb it down a little in future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Enough being sensible, m9. Fans should pressure their own clubs into making a stand, but Aberdeen fans shouldn't? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Fans should pressure their own clubs into making a stand, but Aberdeen fans shouldn't? The Aberdeen fans are but if the baldy snake won't take that on board then there is f**k all they can do about it. The fans will continue to put pressure on regardless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Romeo said: The Aberdeen fans are but if the baldy snake won't take that on board then there is f**k all they can do about it. The fans will continue to put pressure on regardless. I agree. Acceptance and the "who gives a f**k - we're winning" brigade are probably best, IMO, keeping their opinions to themselves though. They're doing no-one, except the (the) Rangers any good. To put it another way; I genuinely believe that those who don't care very much would care very much if they were not having some success. Which is the very point in question. When is cheating ok? There are all kinds of answers for that question it seems, some I hadn't considered. Edited July 22, 2017 by Shades75 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades75 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Too "many" paragraphs. Carry on, you're doing a fine job. Luckily, for me, I didn't mention grammar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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