DukDukGoose Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Agree on confidence and lack of responsibility but wouldn't put that on Lewis. Shinnie, Hayes, Flood, Robson, Mclean at his best, Logan of old even maybe. These guys took the game by the neck when Pittodrie is a morgue and we were up against a stuffy team looking to kill it. Ferguson/Kennedy look like they might have that but not doing it just now. I am not Mcinnes out either, it has to be said. Exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCDannyFTH Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Havers. We won the league cup with a quiet spoken centre half as captain. Reached two finals and finished second with Jack (hardly an inspiring character) as captain. What we miss from Shinnie is his drive and energy. He didn't need a captains armband for that. We've still not replaced him. Jack is a h*n c**t but people use that to gloss over how good a player he actually was for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Havers. We won the league cup with a quiet spoken centre half as captain. Reached two finals and finished second with Jack (hardly an inspiring character) as captain. What we miss from Shinnie is his drive and energy. He didn't need a captains armband for that. Anderson was a centre half, and Jack a midfielder. Lewis can hardly have any influence on the team from his place in the penalty box. I'm not a fan of having keepers as the team captain, and certainly not one as quiet as Lewis. 2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: . Ferguson/Kennedy look like they might have that but not doing it just now. Ferguson has went completely off the boil since the break. He looks lost in midfield, unsure whether to hang back or push into the box. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Ferguson has went completely off the boil since the break. He looks lost in midfield, unsure whether to hang back or push into the box. You need not look too far for a better replacement. £5M and you can have him lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, tree house tam said: You need not look too far for a better replacement. £5M and you can have him lads. Dont worry, McInnes will now be chasing him for the next decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Dont worry, McInnes will now be chasing him for the next decade. On the phone to his agent right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, tree house tam said: £5M and you can have him lads. £4,930,000 better than Kennedy, he must really be something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Anderson was a centre half, and Jack a midfielder. Lewis can hardly have any influence on the team from his place in the penalty box. I'm not a fan of having keepers as the team captain, and certainly not one as quiet as Lewis. Ferguson has went completely off the boil since the break. He looks lost in midfield, unsure whether to hang back or push into the box. What is it you think the captain does? They're largely used in an off-field capacity. They shake hands first and sometimes get to toss the coin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberdeen Cowden Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Merkland Red said: As soon as the goalkeeper or defenders pick up the ball, our players run to their designated spot on the pitch. Then we either go long immediately or pass the ball about between four defenders and two deep cm's before placing ourselves under pressure and going long. It's been happening the whole season. Once the opposition are confident they can hold on to the point or 3 they look like achieving they drop everyone back and then we continue to pass the ball around the defence. I’m no Cove fan but it would do McInnes no harm to watch them play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Tommy Wrights tactical analysis on how they won added to the frustration. Essentially what everyone on here has been saying for the past few months. This. Heard it on the radio......the three points at Pittodrie guideline. Force them to give the ball back to their defenders all the time. CHECK Press and hassle said defenders, leading to an aimless punt CHECK Ensure your centre halves contest and win the aimless punts CHECK If they do occasionally manage to work the ball wide, force the wide player to cut inside and congest the middle area with bodies CHECK Do not worry about full-backs getting forward and making a spare man CHECK* (* this Venezuelan dude a bit of an unknown here, but he hasn't played for ages) Corners and other set pieces will generally be floaty and aimless - ensure your defenders can head and your keeper can catch CHECK Don't bother marking the wee Irish-American dude who seems to get a game quite often, his first touch will do the job for you CHECK If you get a chance, take it and listen to the frustration from the home stands turn toxic CHECK Train wherever you want - multi purpose super duper purpose built facilities and warm-weather training camps clearly make f**k all difference CHECK Edited February 6, 2020 by tarapoa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO2001 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: What is it you think the captain does? They're largely used in an off-field capacity. They shake hands first and sometimes get to toss the coin. Maybe when things are going well but when things go bad or hopefully before is when a good Captain makes a difference, difficult so far away from the middle of things (inc the dugout & Ref/opposing players) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ferguson has went completely off the boil since the break. He looks lost in midfield, unsure whether to hang back or push into the box. What is it you think the captain does? They're largely used in an off-field capacity. They shake hands first and sometimes get to toss the coin.Agree more with Merkland Red here. Keeper captains are not a specific problem. They work fine in enough examples. The big issue we have is that we don't have enough people prepared to lead and take control of things when they are going wrong. We have technically reasonable players with little leadership quality. It really has been an increasing problem since the 2017 Cup Final. We have never replaced the likes of Jack, Shinnie Hayes christ even Christie took games by the scruff of the neck.I look at our current team and see no leaders outwith Joe Lewis. We are too timid as a team and it shows when we lose a goal and cannot respond. We are a soft touch mentally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, BucksburnDandy said: I look at our current team and see no leaders outwith Joe Lewis. We are too timid as a team and it shows when we lose a goal and cannot respond. We are a soft touch mentally. They seem more concerned at being angry with fans being angry with them, rather than the proverbial 'scruff of the neck' thing. The only examples of 'let's fkin sort this $hite out' mentality witnessed this season was Bryson coming on at HT in Celtic 0-4 and ensuring the second-half flip-flop wearing Celtic side did no further damage - and to a small extent, Devlin can at times being vocal. Alas Bryson is seldom seen, and Devlin has not proven to the be the quality defender we thought we'd signed given the first few months evidence before his injury last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, CO2001 said: Maybe when things are going well but when things go bad or hopefully before is when a good Captain makes a difference, difficult so far away from the middle of things (inc the dugout & Ref/opposing players) You don't need a captains armband to tell someone to pull their finger out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Merkland Red said: You don't need a captains armband to tell someone to pull their finger out. Maybe not, but a vocal, inspiring leader on the park is something that every great team has. Scott Brown may be a d1ck, but he's their undisputed captain and leader. He's the man they look to when things aren't going well. What we have at the moment is a team that's leaderless and rudderless. Lewis is a good keeper but it's hard to see him as leader material. On top of that, we've got 10 outfield players that are hiding and/or waiting for others to take the lead. A bad choice in captain isn't the main fucking reason why we're losing like pussies to the likes of St Johnstone, but it doesn't help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CO2001 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Merkland Red said: You don't need a captains armband to tell someone to pull their finger out. But if not the Captain the ones getting moaned at are prob thinking who does he think he is to say that Captain? Not the big issue but hasn't been great under Lewis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, CO2001 said: But if not the Captain the ones getting moaned at are prob thinking who does he think he is to say that Captain? Not the big issue but hasn't been great under Lewis In all the games I've played since I was a child I can't ever remember once getting upset because someone who wasn't wearing an armband gave me a row. You'd like to think professionals could show the same attitude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DukDukGoose Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: Maybe not, but a vocal, inspiring leader on the park is something that every great team has. Scott Brown may be a d1ck, but he's their undisputed captain and leader. He's the man they look to when things aren't going well. What we have at the moment is a team that's leaderless and rudderless. Lewis is a good keeper but it's hard to see him as leader material. On top of that, we've got 10 outfield players that are hiding and/or waiting for others to take the lead. A bad choice in captain isn't the main fucking reason why we're losing like pussies to the likes of St Johnstone, but it doesn't help. If Scott Brown came out of international retirement for the next game do you think he'd decide not to be a leader because Robertson is the captain? No he obviously wouldn't. If one of the outfield players is made captain are they suddenly going to inspire? Joe Lewis as captain has nothing to do with this shambles of a season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: I see the usual mob are replying to it with shit about sacking McInnes. Imagine the embarrassment of signing a deal for the club and then having the club's fans make it look stupid by acting like children having a tantrum at the completely unrelated announcement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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