Irrational Behaviour Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Presumably Towler is staying at Cove? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 What's our hopes and expectations for the window? My hope is for a new centre half, right back and midfielder. As a minimum. If we can lunt Watkins and Ramirez then another striker too. My expectations are none of the above and a college player to pitch up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: What's our hopes and expectations for the window? My hope is for a new centre half, right back and midfielder. As a minimum. If we can lunt Watkins and Ramirez then another striker too. My expectations are none of the above and a college player to pitch up. Not fussed on a striker, i think Ramirez is a quality back up for Miovski. Starting RB, CB and squad midfielder required. New manager would be nice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, coprolite said: Not fussed on a striker, i think Ramirez is a quality back up for Miovski. Starting RB, CB and squad midfielder required. New manager would be nice. We need to get Miovski firing again though. That's the big issue. And Goodwin doesn't fancy Ramirez. I wouldn't be shocked if we don't see him play again. Seemed to me like Monday was to prove a point. Why do you put a no9 in the "10" position. Especially when we have players actually capable of playing there naturally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Yeah RB and a CB are the obvious ones. I think it seems certain at least one of Watkins or Ramirez will move on so would imagine a striker would be needed. Can't say I have much confidence in getting decent deals over the line. Names linked so far seem a bit uninspiring and hard to say whether Cormack even rates Goodwin highly enough to go all out to get who he wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rodhull said: Yeah RB and a CB are the obvious ones. I think it seems certain at least one of Watkins or Ramirez will move on so would imagine a striker would be needed. Can't say I have much confidence in getting decent deals over the line. Names linked so far seem a bit uninspiring and hard to say whether Cormack even rates Goodwin highly enough to go all out to get who he wants. This is exactly my fear. The past 3 January windows we've gone into them with fans voicing their concerns over the manager. That's resulted in the manager not being backed and then punted in February. It's Cormacks way. The longer we go into January without any decent signings or even rumours of who we are looking at then i suspect we'll see a change of manager next month. What Cormack fails to realise is all he does by doing that is damage the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: We need to get Miovski firing again though. That's the big issue. And Goodwin doesn't fancy Ramirez. I wouldn't be shocked if we don't see him play again. Seemed to me like Monday was to prove a point. Why do you put a no9 in the "10" position. Especially when we have players actually capable of playing there naturally. Not sure what point that was meant to prove other than Goodwin being a bit of a fanny. Ramirez just looked like a decent player in the wrong position. I think you're right that Goodwin doesn't rate him and we'll probably look to replace him sooner rather than later but personally i'd rather Goodwin fucked off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, coprolite said: Not sure what point that was meant to prove other than Goodwin being a bit of a fanny. Ramirez just looked like a decent player in the wrong position. I think you're right that Goodwin doesn't rate him and we'll probably look to replace him sooner rather than later but personally i'd rather Goodwin fucked off. If he said what is being rumoured on twitter thwt he said then he should be sacked immediately. Apparently he said Hearts are pretty much out of reach in 3rd place and we won't catch them. Certainly will be the case if you keep putting out shite like the past 3 weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, DunbartonshireRed said: If he said what is being rumoured on twitter thwt he said then he should be sacked immediately. Apparently he said Hearts are pretty much out of reach in 3rd place and we won't catch them. Certainly will be the case if you keep putting out shite like the past 3 weeks. Been saying all along that Aberdeen for third was always a long shot. I think the run of the fixtures combined with Hearts' injuries and fixture congestion got a few Aberdeen fans' hopes up, but you are and always have been the outside bet. Recent results are pretty much what anyone who was paying attention would have expected to see after the World Cup break, you failing to beat County at home aside. The other four results you had (and we had) were reasonably predictable. You're not quite out of it yet, but you will be if we beat St Mirren and Aberdeen at Tynecastle, even if we lose in Paisley. I think you'll probably be top 6. Edited January 4, 2023 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, VincentGuerin said: Been saying all along that Aberdeen for third was always a long shot. I think the run of the fixtures combined with Hearts' injuries and fixture congestion got a few Aberdeen fans' hopes up, but you are and always have been the outside bet. Recent results are pretty much what anyone who was paying attention would have expected to see after the World Cup break. You're not quite out of it yet, but you will be if we beat St Mirren and Aberdeen at Tynecastle, even if we lose in Paisley. I think you'll probably be top 6. Personally don't think we'll get 3rd either but the manager shouldn't be coming out at the start of a transfer window saying "yeah Hearts are too far ahead." It's 5 points and we need to go to Tynecastle in a couple of weeks. It doesn't send out the right message to the players. Nor potential signings he's trying to get in. Clusterfuck of the highest order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: Personally don't think we'll get 3rd either but the manager shouldn't be coming out at the start of a transfer window saying "yeah Hearts are too far ahead." It's 5 points and we need to go to Tynecastle in a couple of weeks. It doesn't send out the right message to the players. Nor potential signings he's trying to get in. Clusterfuck of the highest order. Aye, I mean if you come to Tynecastle and win then it's all back on, no question. The issue is whether you really expect that to happen. I was quite happy with being four points behind Aberdeen at the World Cup break, as looking at your four fixtures coming up being the OF x2 followed by those two away games, I was confident you'd get no more than two points and we'd be ahead of you by new year, and that's pretty much what happened. Aberdeen's away form isn't braw, and we're strong at home and are getting stronger with players returning from injury. I can understand why Goodwin would now be moving on to managing expectation. I don't see the home game as a gimmie, and Aberdeen clearly have players who could win it, but if I reversed the situation, I wouldn't be looking at it confidently. There's little point in him coming out and saying 'We're right in the mix' when the reality is you're five behind, have played a game more, and face Hearts in a fixture you're second-favourites for in a couple of weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Aye, I mean if you come to Tynecastle and win then it's all back on, no question. The issue is whether you really expect that to happen. I was quite happy with being four points behind Aberdeen at the World Cup break, as looking at your four fixtures coming up being the OF x2 followed by those two away games, I was confident you'd get no more than two points and we'd be ahead of you by new year, and that's pretty much what happened. Aberdeen's away form isn't braw, and we're strong at home and are getting stronger with players returning from injury. I can understand why Goodwin would now be moving on to managing expectation. I don't see the home game as a gimmie, and Aberdeen clearly have players who could win it, but if I reversed the situation, I wouldn't be looking at it confidently. There's little point in him coming out and saying 'We're right in the mix' when the reality is you're five behind, have played a game more, and face Hearts in a fixture you're second-favourites for in a couple of weeks. It's not a case of managing expectations though. He said earlier in the season "Aberdeen should be fighting with Hearts and Hibs for 3rd as a minimum". Yet he's jacked it in half way through the season. Not a good look imo. We won't win the game at Tynecastle. But it's his job to motivate the players. And saying that doesn't exactly inspire confidence. And it's not going to get the fans behind the team either. They'll be thinking why should they spend their cash during these times to follow a team who don't even believe they can finish 3rd. What's the point? Would you be happy if the roles were reversed and Neilson said that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: It's not a case of managing expectations though. He said earlier in the season "Aberdeen should be fighting with Hearts and Hibs for 3rd as a minimum". Yet he's jacked it in half way through the season. Not a good look imo. We won't win the game at Tynecastle. But it's his job to motivate the players. And saying that doesn't exactly inspire confidence. And it's not going to get the fans behind the team either. They'll be thinking why should they spend their cash during these times to follow a team who don't even believe they can finish 3rd. What's the point? Would you be happy if the roles were reversed and Neilson said that? I try to listen to Robbie as infrequently as possible, to be honest. Look, I'm not necessarily defending Goodwin. I've said before I don't think he's up to much. And I think this is another example of it. He doesn't know which way to turn in terms of dealing with the media. Sometimes he digs out his own players, then he sticks up for them after drawing at home to the bottom team. He once said you should be fighting for third as minimum, it would be on-brand for him to do a 180 and say the opposite. I just don't think he knows what he's doing. I can see a rationale for it though. He knows his jacket is on a shoogly peg, and talking up his chances of achieving something that I think a bookie would now give you long odds on (finishing third) isn't wise. He now needs to sell finishing top 4 as the big thing. Maybe it'll work for him, maybe it won't. I said on here a few weeks back that I thought Aberdeen in third was a false position (given gloss by pumping some lower league teams in the League Cup in essentially a bye to the semi-final) and that the Aberdeen support would turn on him by March. Turns out my only mistake was going too late on that prediction. He's probably toast, just a matter of time. Edited January 4, 2023 by VincentGuerin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On that game at Tynecastle, by the way, I've just been on to buy my doddery old uncle a ticket for that one, and Aberdeen are only getting one section of the Roseburn. All the others being sold to home fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 It made me laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, DunbartonshireRed said: Personally don't think we'll get 3rd either but the manager shouldn't be coming out at the start of a transfer window saying "yeah Hearts are too far ahead." It's 5 points and we need to go to Tynecastle in a couple of weeks. It doesn't send out the right message to the players. Nor potential signings he's trying to get in. Clusterfuck of the highest order. Loser, small club manager mentality. Get him to f**k. ASAP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunbartonshireRed Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thenorthernlight said: Loser, small club manager mentality. Get him to f**k. ASAP Aye i'd be binning him. Infact i'd have already binned him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1GregStewart Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Has Goodwin definitely said that Hearts are gone and we can’t catch them? where is this statement? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Some of our fans losing their heads over absolutely nothing as per. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Goodwin says absolutely nothing wrong there. Impossible to disagree with, really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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