Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Whatever happens with this the only thing I think we all agree upon is that it doesn't turn into the shitfest that Sturgeon/Lamont turned into. I suspect it will be somewhat more cordial than that, but I really hope that STV abandon the format they used during the Sturgeon debates, especially the cross examination portion, which just becomes a shouting match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I suspect it will be somewhat more cordial than that, but I really hope that STV abandon the format they used during the Sturgeon debates, especially the cross examination portion, which just becomes a shouting match. I agree with this , the "Sturgeon" debates, were a car crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Paranoia paranoia everybodys trying to get me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Paranoia paranoia everybodys trying to get me Darlings been shouting about it for a while and now its on salmonds terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I agree with this , the "Sturgeon" debates, were a car crash The Moore debate was pretty polite and they both attempted to engage the arguments. Carmichael fell apart and Sturgeon wiped the floor with him, hence his removal from prominence. Sarwar decided to stop her from speaking at all and got a bit of a doin, hence HIS removal from prominence. Lamont decided that the Sarwar tactic was best, and went at it as if she was coked up. That was a particularly awful piece of TV. Stairheid rammy (to quote every political journo the following day) was probably the most apt description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hope it's on at a good time, the more people who see this, the more people swing to Yes. It's that simple. As Lex says, the issues at hand are just too convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I strongly suspect that Darling didnt believe that Salmond would agree to it. It was a huge gamble by him asking for it, and if Salmond hits form its a rout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 The Moore debate was pretty polite and they both attempted to engage the arguments. Carmichael fell apart and Sturgeon wiped the floor with him, hence his removal from prominence. Sarwar decided to stop her from speaking at all and got a bit of a doin, hence HIS removal from prominence. Lamont decided that the Sarwar tactic was best, and went at it as if she was coked up. That was a particularly awful piece of TV. Stairheid rammy (to quote every political journo the following day) was probably the most apt description. Sturgeon JUST SHOUTS ALL THE TIME!!!!!, but it has to be someone stronger that Rona in charge, she just could not shut Sturgeon up, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Sturgeon JUST SHOUTS ALL THE TIME!!!!!, but it has to be someone stronger that Rona in charge, she just could not shut Sturgeon up, I disagree. Sturgeon started the shouting when up against Sarwar (who shouted) & the astonished one (who shouted IN CAPITAL LETTERS WITH EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Salmond should debate Sturgeon, only way it would be a fair fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 McBookie running a book on the winner. Salmond 8/11 Darling 6/5 Salmond will obviously win the debate, but if its decided by a phone vote I would be very wary of punting on this! This is mental. How can you lay a bet on something so subjective. Regardless of the outcome the Daily Record will claim Darling won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 The No campaign would do well to dampen down the expectations here and big up Salmond the debater. They want a situation whereby if Darling manages to come through the debate without tripping over his own shoelaces then he is awarded the victory (I'm yet to convince he'll manage this but hey ho). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 The No campaign would do well to dampen down the expectations here and big up Salmond the debater. Have you seen the no campaign? To quote the great Tucker they're "Flapping around like Christ in a crucifix shop." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 If Salmond can't easily win a debate with Darling then he really should just pack up and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Have you seen the no campaign? To quote the great Tucker they're "Flapping around like Christ in a crucifix shop." "Like a sweaty octopus trying to unhook a bra" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Have you seen the no campaign? To quote the great Tucker they're "Flapping around like Christ in a crucifix shop." Even he eventually got pinned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I disagree. Sturgeon started the shouting when up against Sarwar (who shouted) & the astonished one (who shouted IN CAPITAL LETTERS WITH EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!) no surprise there then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Sturgeon JUST SHOUTS ALL THE TIME!!!!!, but it has to be someone stronger that Rona in charge, she just could not shut Sturgeon up, Clearly you've never met Johann Lamont. Watch FMQs. Every time, Lamont gets into a wee tizz and every time Salmond puts her in his back pocket. It's really quite amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 But she's debater of the year..... And those that gave her the title should be ashamed, Swinney has won it twice ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Salmond v Darling 2, 12th august on the BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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