Smurph Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't know much about guns but I know if you need two hands to hold it, it's a pretty big gun. I'm not too bothered about the increased security. The check ins every time I start are a bit monotonous but it doesn't take long at all, for staff anyway. I'd much rather they were a bit over the top than less secure than they should be. The policemen I've spoken to have all been really pleasant anyway which is good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 How did u manage that?! I got there at 4.30pm, arriving from the Clyde tunnel end. We were sent down the road behind the away end, to the end of the queue which had snaked all the way round behind the Govan road stand. Did u arrive from the other end? Yep, came to the entrance at the corner at Edmiston Drive/Copland Road and there was only about 25/30 folk in front of us. It took me longer to get my belt on and off than it did to go through the entrances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If it is done with good humour, which in my experience it has been, i dont mind so much. When it is done when the police have their dickhead hats on when dealing with football crowds it pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 If it is done with good humour, which in my experience it has been, i dont mind so much. When it is done when the police have their dickhead hats on when dealing with football crowds it pisses me off. I think this is the main issue. At London 2012, the army were doing the security checks into the Olympic Park, they were friendly, courteous, and hugely efficient. I've found the police to be the same at the three venues I've been to so far. Compare and contrast with the police and stewards dealing with the massive crowd queuing in the road at Firhill in our opening game last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I think this is the main issue. At London 2012, the army were doing the security checks into the Olympic Park, they were friendly, courteous, and hugely efficient. I've found the police to be the same at the three venues I've been to so far. Compare and contrast with the police and stewards dealing with the massive crowd queuing in the road at Firhill in our opening game last season! Didn't see many police at either of the Ibrox Sevens sessions yesterday, but the staff on duty were all of the above. I don't see how we can hold OF games with their attendant risks, yet a family friendly event like sevens needs this level of security, but it was well organised and of only minor inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I live in City Quay and it's starting to get on my tits being asked what I'm doing every day on my way to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I live in City Quay and it's starting to get on my tits being asked what I'm doing every day on my way to work You should have gone on holiday and let your flat out for an exorbitant sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Saw this suggesting that the transport was a bit poor today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28513536 I have to say I'd found security and transport not too bad until today. A few trains were busy and some have been 5 or 10mins late, but nothing dramatic. Ibrox was busy last night at the Broomloan Road entrance, but if you went to Copeland Road it was easy to get in. However whoever decided to have the marathon on and Hampden and Ibrox full wasn't thinking straight. Bit of a nightmare to get about today with road closures- it was a 1 hour queue for trains to Hampden from town and as the buses were screwed because of the road closures, it was difficult to get there. We walked although found out that Hampden only has 1 entry point now, and it is the other side from the west stand and Mount Florida station where we headed too- so you had loads of people having to get over the hill to Toryglen Asda and coming back to the west stand. Madness not to have an entry near Mount Florida station. I got the 34 bus back home, tomorrow I'm going at night. Session finishes 22.20. Last bus 21.55. Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 It seems it was pretty bad, in certain places at certain times: there were evidently a number of frustrated people stuck for ages at P&Rs or to the Athletics. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28513536 Some people interviewed on 5Live were also evidently p*ssed-off. They say they are laying-on additional buses and staff tomorrow, in response to today's cock-ups... which makes you wonder, well why didn't you predict it in advance, tbf. This is of course after they decided not long before the games started to lay-on additional buses, using the last of the contingency budget: so heaven forbid what things might have been like if they'd gone with the original plan, which by implication must've involved even fewer buses than ultimately provided today. (Interestingly, my P&R bus inward evidently came from London - my P&R bus outward from Ayrshire, IIRC). But I'd suspect that... extra buses being laid on tomorrow or not... Sunday's experience will be a one-off, as it's the only day where they scheduled tens of thousands of people to be going to Hampden and to Ibrox. Coupled with city centre road closures for the marathon. In hindsight, that was too much. My P&R into Ibrox from Baldinnie for the morning session was excellent other than some poor signage from the M8 to the site which might have caught-out some. Afterwards the organisation of queues and buses was a triumph of almost military precision. Only flaw seemed to lie in the sphere of the police... ... who had re-opened Edmiston Drive but left no officers at the junctions. It took 30-40 mins to cover a couple of hundreds yards from the assemblypoints (wasteland north of Ibrox) to the M8 - as the trickle of private cars running east-west, and people using the pedestrian crossings at McDonalds, created a gigantic bus snarl-up. Right outside Govan police station . Yep, came to the entrance at the corner at Edmiston Drive/Copland Road and there was only about 25/30 folk in front of us. It took me longer to get my belt on and off than it did to go through the entrances. Ditto for myself today. Volunteers desperately telling people "short queues just around the corner!!" but few heeded it. Herd mentality, possibly. In terms of security at the venues... I've experienced it with the police, army and navy so far. No problems whatsoever. Fast, efficient, courteous. (Albeit in one instance the soldiers language - disputing very audibly when they'd get relieved - would've caused more delicate persons to blush !!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I can't fathom why they decided to only have one entrance to Hampden, and just looking at my tickets for Friday the gates open at 5 for a 6pm start, yet the sevens had a two hour window to get in. Madness to give themselves half the time to try and get a similar sized crowd through the entrances.The missus is going to the gymnastics today and even that has a 1 & 1/2 hour window between the gates opening and the session start. HJ, the shuttle bus I was on back into town last night was from Stagecoach Kent, complete with leaflets for visiting Canterbury! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPStu Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I can't fathom why they decided to only have one entrance to Hampden, and just looking at my tickets for Friday the gates open at 5 for a 6pm start, yet the sevens had a two hour window to get in. Madness to give themselves half the time to try and get a similar sized crowd through the entrances.The missus is going to the gymnastics today and even that has a 1 & 1/2 hour window between the gates opening and the session start. HJ, the shuttle bus I was on back into town last night was from Stagecoach Kent, complete with leaflets for visiting Canterbury! I can't fathom that either. One entrance for 40,000 people. Could you imagine that at a football match or concert? Also, I cannot see how an athletics event is any more of a security risk than the football matches (big ones I mean, not the few hundred of us who watch Queen's Park) or concerts at Hampden where people are trusted to enter through turnstiles and leave through the appropriate exits, all without being searched akin to being in an airport. All that said, I enjoyed myself once I got in and it was a novelty sitting at Hampden with a drink. Get a bank loan if you want to eat anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Only bad experience I had the whole day was the train home. Arrived at Queen St with about an hour before the 23:45 to Perth. The station announcer was going on and on about trains to Edinburgh and nothing else. At around 23:15 I noticed a large mass of people around some of the ticket barriers. I asked what they were doing and this was the "queue" for the Perth train. When they opened the barriers some woman started screaming "Perth and Stirling tickets only!". The train had meant to stop at various stations like Croy etc but the board now said just Stirling and Perth. Everyone was pushing forward trying to get through and it was just a mess. I managed to squeeze through and get on. Five minutes later it seems they've changed their minds and anyone can board the train and we're back to stopping at every station. It wouldn't have taken much effort to organise things better. If they had a proper queue for Perth/Stirling only and one for the rest they could have seen what kind of numbers they were dealing with and actually make something that could be considered informed decisions instead of just making it up as they went along. Everything else for me was fine. The queues to get in were long but moved quite quickly and the shuttle bus to the venue was fine too. Didn't take the bus back into the city centre though, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock001 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I've noticed the past 3 days there are about 40 police around the SECC/HYDRO with pistols AND sniper rifles, anyone else think this is a tad too far? fair enough to have a few specialists on the ground but they are walking about like it's going out of fashion. Feels a bit unnerving walking about thinking there is a high risk of some form of attack. No doubt talking out my arse though You are but it's understandable,basically it's because police have taken over all security due to the g4s fcuk up at the Olympics. You are telling us that the police used to let G4s walk about with sniper rifles instead? Jeez, you guys appear less and less competent every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsanorak Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Didnt have any big gripes about the p&r from silverburn to hampden yesterday. Booked the early bus and was well up in the queue. Came out the stadium later and expected the queues we encountered. Only wee issue was that there were empty coaches chartered for freescale whilst there was 700+ in the line for silverburn. Enjoyed the athletics though disappointed slightly that scotland could only present 4 athletes for those events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yep, came to the entrance at the corner at Edmiston Drive/Copland Road and there was only about 25/30 folk in front of us. It took me longer to get my belt on and off than it did to go through the entrances. Same here - although obviously I was taking my own belt off rather than yours Only complaint I'd have is I took my jacket off and chucked it on the tray which I don't think went through any machine. Could have had anything in the pockets. Didn't have any problems with the transport either. Wouldn't surprise me if the companies made a mess of it but also wouldn't surprise me if morons think they can arrive 15 minutes before a session is due to start and they'll have no problems with security or travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audaces Fortuna Juvat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Just watched an over zealous w@nk of a steward trying to stop Greg Rutherford from signing autographs for kids and have "selfies" taken with them. Aren't we supposed to encourage the next generation? What an utter tosspot? I know he may be following orders, but FFS. A few minutes signing autographs is not going to provoke an invasion of the Hampden pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I've noticed a lot of police up from the Met. So here is a question Since we have a different legal system in Scotland, do English police have the lawful authority to arrest people up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I've noticed a lot of police up from the Met. So here is a question Since we have a different legal system in Scotland, do English police have the lawful authority to arrest people up here? Yes, AFAIA, although I haven't any idea of the details. I doubt they're up here as glorified stewards. I've also noticed police in Welsh uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yes the power of constable in uk is transferable, there's a few ways this can be done either at the request for what we call mutual aid, the chief constable can afford powers to those officers or a more spontaneous thing whereby if a cop from Scotland sees an assault in England he can exercise his powers of arrest, there's other legislation which allows a cop in England to come to Scotland and investigate a crime so you can be arrested using English law in Scotland and vice versa. You learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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