haggis pakora Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 this is the first post of yours I have ever agreed with. The c***s do my head in,we have/had a chance to explore further into space...but no these stupid fucking fannys have basically fucked it up. Because they did not want a plutonium fucking generator...why should these backwards c***s have a say in what these scientists can and can do... I would have told them to f**k off and mind their own business, fucking loonballs the idiots. Science is more important than a few bunny huggers. I think this lander is fucked now,hope to f**k I'm wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Here she is about to sing a ballad for Mozza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 She's a magician, here she is not breaking this swing. Yon lassie from Glee's done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The c***s do my head in,we have/had a chance to explore further into space...but no these stupid fucking fannys have basically fucked it up.Because they did not want a plutonium fucking generator...why should these backwards c***s have a say in what these scientists can and can do...I would have told them to f**k off and mind their own business, fucking loonballs the idiots. Science is more important than a few bunny huggers.I think this lander is fucked now,hope to f**k I'm wrong though. What a state to get yourself in over a bit of rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What a state to get yourself in over a bit of rock. Yes and Gibraltar is worth getting into a state about. Fucking Spanish. Grrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamdunk Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The c***s do my head in,we have/had a chance to explore further into space...but no these stupid fucking fannys have basically fucked it up.Because they did not want a plutonium fucking generator...why should these backwards c***s have a say in what these scientists can and can do...I would have told them to f**k off and mind their own business, fucking loonballs the idiots. Science is more important than a few bunny huggers.I think this lander is fucked now,hope to f**k I'm wrong though. Vote YSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 She's a magician, here she is not breaking this swing. Here she is at the launderette in front of the only machine that has room for her pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 She has done some really good work on the forthcoming massively over budget James Webb Space telescope, optics I think. But deffo not TV presenter material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Enjoying the bbc 4 prog on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The c***s do my head in,we have/had a chance to explore further into space...but no these stupid fucking fannys have basically fucked it up. Because they did not want a plutonium fucking generator...why should these backwards c***s have a say in what these scientists can and can do... I would have told them to f**k off and mind their own business, fucking loonballs the idiots. Science is more important than a few bunny huggers. I think this lander is fucked now,hope to f**k I'm wrong though. Aye mate, the bunny huggers have ruined space exploration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Enjoying the bbc 4 prog on this Have recorded this will try to watch it tonight when the 7 hours of river city , corrie and eastenders is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Have recorded this will try to watch it tonight when the 7 hours of river city , corrie and eastenders is done Swap you for endless hours of 'Real Housewives of....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Shots of Philae coming in to land and after first bounce: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2014/11/17/osiris-spots-Philae-drifting-across-the-comet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 The c***s do my head in,we have/had a chance to explore further into space...but no these stupid fucking fannys have basically fucked it up. Because they did not want a plutonium fucking generator...why should these backwards c***s have a say in what these scientists can and can do... I would have told them to f**k off and mind their own business, fucking loonballs the idiots. Science is more important than a few bunny huggers. I think this lander is fucked now,hope to f**k I'm wrong though. Well no, It wasn't nuclear battery powered because of at least three criteria I can think of . Firstly, mass. All space launches are dictated by the mass of the payload. The mass of a nuclear battery is not insignificant for what is a smallish, compact probe, which would've made getting the thing up there in the first place far more expensive (each kg in payload costs many times that number in kg of propellant at launch). Secondly, Availability of the isoptope. The isotope used in typical nuclear batteries is Plutonium-238, which is produced in small supplies and was not being produced in the timeframe Rosetta/Philae was built, hence the cost would've been driven up by the market. Third, technology transfer. ESA is a publically funded program, one of the main reasons for it's continued funding is the research and transfer of new technologies to further industry. Nuclear batteries are well researched and possess very little European content ,either in design or manufacturing. There was therefore little incentive to use them from a technology viewpoint. By contrast, for it's mission profile (relatively close to the sun) solar power offered ESA a chance to demonstrate new levels of reliability and efficiency in the use of solar panels to power space probes, helping drive research and technology transfer into industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Stephan Ulamec, the Lander Manager said live on TV that the reasons they didn't use one were political, one, resistance for environmental reasons and 2, it would look bad having to buy or beg one off the Americans. Nothing to do with what would be best technically for the mission. He gave the clear impression that given the choice he would have equipped the lander with one, the smallest one only weighs a couple of kilos. At least it might have been able to heat up the batteries to zero so they could start charging in short periods of sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Well no, It wasn't nuclear battery powered because of at least three criteria I can think of . Firstly, mass. All space launches are dictated by the mass of the payload. The mass of a nuclear battery is not insignificant for what is a smallish, compact probe, which would've made getting the thing up there in the first place far more expensive (each kg in payload costs many times that number in kg of propellant at launch). Secondly, Availability of the isoptope. The isotope used in typical nuclear batteries is Plutonium-238, which is produced in small supplies and was not being produced in the timeframe Rosetta/Philae was built, hence the cost would've been driven up by the market. Third, technology transfer. ESA is a publically funded program, one of the main reasons for it's continued funding is the research and transfer of new technologies to further industry. Nuclear batteries are well researched and possess very little European content ,either in design or manufacturing. There was therefore little incentive to use them from a technology viewpoint. By contrast, for it's mission profile (relatively close to the sun) solar power offered ESA a chance to demonstrate new levels of reliability and efficiency in the use of solar panels to power space probes, helping drive research and technology transfer into industry. Do you own a sexist shirt by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Well no, It wasn't nuclear battery powered because of at least three criteria I can think of . Firstly, mass. All space launches are dictated by the mass of the payload. The mass of a nuclear battery is not insignificant for what is a smallish, compact probe, which would've made getting the thing up there in the first place far more expensive (each kg in payload costs many times that number in kg of propellant at launch). Secondly, Availability of the isoptope. The isotope used in typical nuclear batteries is Plutonium-238, which is produced in small supplies and was not being produced in the timeframe Rosetta/Philae was built, hence the cost would've been driven up by the market. Third, technology transfer. ESA is a publically funded program, one of the main reasons for it's continued funding is the research and transfer of new technologies to further industry. Nuclear batteries are well researched and possess very little European content ,either in design or manufacturing. There was therefore little incentive to use them from a technology viewpoint. By contrast, for it's mission profile (relatively close to the sun) solar power offered ESA a chance to demonstrate new levels of reliability and efficiency in the use of solar panels to power space probes, helping drive research and technology transfer into industry. You always get in just before me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You always get in just before me! Your wife doesn't mind B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Your wife doesn't mind B)Tell her I'm asking for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Do you own a sexist shirt by any chance? Just a few overly geeky t-shirts I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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