hellbhoy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I see that Lowland League club University of Stirling have just announced the appointment of Shelley Kerr as their new manager - making her the first female manager of a British senior mens football club (and arguably the first of a professional club given a good proportion of Stirling players are effectively full-time). In principle, this could see a female manager in the Scottish League next season - as Stirling finished 2nd last season and going one better would mean the playoffs. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28856370 However it got me thinking. Assuming that doesn't occur - how long until a SPFL club appoints a woman? A few years perhaps, or a decade? It would have seemed unthinkable not long ago, but more recently, I'm less sure. How long until a Premiership club appoints a female manager? Or is it possible there will never be a female top-tier gaffer in Scotland? Thoughts? There will at some point be a female who will break through to manage an SPFL club as the world changes and men's perceptions of what a woman should or should not do change through the years. She will get there on merit rather than just because it's an ex player who used to be someone once, but don't expect most fans or some people in the game to take to it lightly as it is still viewed as a man's game for years to come. I don't think we'll see a woman at a top flight club for many a year should a woman manage one of the lower tier clubs and be successful. but she will be the pioneer that broke the mould. If a woman does manage a club in the SPFL and be completely incompetent then it will be a major set back in having more than woman manage a club. There are more female fans today who attend matches than there were over two decades ago and many woman involved in being a pundit in the media so having a female as manager is the next logical step after the EPL allowing a female to be an "assistant ref" ?? LINESMAN ffs in the EPL a few years ago and she has fought tooth and nail to be there on merit alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Im_Rodger Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If she's hot yes. If she's fugly no. Follow my criteria and Scottish football will be on par with English I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennysmassiveego Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 More chance of an Islamic Fundamentalist manager than a female one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 What about Ladyboys blazing this trail as some form of compromise?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 What percentage of Scottish ladies sides coached by women? I know Glasgow City are managed by a bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Jag Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Is she married? Who will make her man's tea and have a beer ready for him on a Saturday if she's away with the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForzaDundee Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Why does this forum not allow racism or religious prejudice but is okay with sexism and misogyny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why does this forum not allow racism or religious prejudice but is okay with sexism and misogyny? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeato Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 To be honest, I imagine most of the sexist comments are ripping the piss and playing on what people expect football forum fans to say. I see nothing wrong with a female manager if she's up to it. I had a drunk conversation in the pub a while back actually about the day Football becomes a mixed sex sport. Imagine the outrage when you're male 7ft centre half squishes the pacey 5ft female winger. Edit: Or better yet when you're female 7ft centre half squishes the pacey 5ft male winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 To be honest, I imagine most of the sexist comments are ripping the piss and playing on what people expect football forum fans to say. I see nothing wrong with a female manager if she's up to it. I had a drunk conversation in the pub a while back actually about the day Football becomes a mixed sex sport. Imagine the outrage when you're male 7ft centre half squishes the pacey 5ft female winger. Edit: Or better yet when you're female 7ft centre half squishes the pacey 5ft male winger. It'll never become a mixed sex sport, fortunately. Struggle to see a female manager being a success, the male minds programmed to despise the sound of a woman so hearing one screech at you at half time about not doing something good enough would cause a fucking meltdown rather than inspire. It might not be right, but its what would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 It'll never become a mixed sex sport, fortunately. Struggle to see a female manager being a success, the male minds programmed to despise the sound of a woman so hearing one screech at you at half time about not doing something good enough would cause a fucking meltdown rather than inspire. It might not be right, but its what would happen. Or maybe she would have the ability to remain calm and composed in getting her point across, unlike so many "fitba men". On the original point about female managers in the SPFL, I doubt someone like Anne Budge would be afraid to appoint one if she thought she was the best candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not sure its a good idea, look what happened when we 'let' a woman run the country....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Why does this forum not allow racism or religious prejudice but is okay with sexism and misogyny? ^^^hen pecked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Morag Pirie has been lineswoman at a few Dundee games (right in front of the Derry )....she did ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Morag Pirie has been lineswoman at a few Dundee games (right in front of the Derry )....she did ok. Not that it matters in the grand scheme of things with relation to the thrust of this thread but one of the games she did at Dens I was sat in the SE for a change and she got pelters for a couple of (probably) poor calls, there were lots of shouts about getting back to the kitchen etc. I think it will take a long time for a more enlightened attitude to permeate the zeitgeist of football fans. Craig Brewster used to get slated for his perceived sexuality on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 I think it works both ways, though.... I've certainly observed that some fans who will berate a male ref or linesman, don't seem to do the same with a female official, perhaps because: [1] they think others will take exception to it, assuming they're sexist; or [2] they feel uncomfortable abusing a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzy Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The point I was trying to make yesterday is that we're unlikely to see a female boss in the SPFL until the top ladies team, at least, is managed/coached by a female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The game would be so much better if we got away from appointing only people with a football background. So you are looking for some kind of rugby or cricket coach for your next gaffer? I would always want my clubs manager to have had a background in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 The point I was trying to make yesterday is that we're unlikely to see a female boss in the SPFL until the top ladies team, at least, is managed/coached by a female. Thistle ladies are managed/coached by males too. It would be interesting to hear how many of the ladies teams were managed by females. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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