capt_oats Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Fwiw: we signed Marvin Johnson from Kidderminster Harriers. Not only was he totally fine for Premiership level we ended up bringing in the best part of £1m in transfer fees after we flipped him. He also helped body Rangers in the play-off. Which was nice. It's less about the club you're signing him from and just depends how well your boy Elton's been scouted and whether he's any good (says me stating the obvious). Edited May 17, 2018 by capt_oats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juantwothree Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Is his agent the same as deacon and kamara? Anybody know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburns Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Juantwothree said: Is his agent the same as deacon and kamara? Anybody know? Doesn't appear so OYS are usually pretty active on twitter and they haven't mentioned it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Juantwothree said: Is his agent the same as deacon and kamara? Anybody know? The video i posted above is from Fifteen 11 Management, so I'd guess not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Nah, his agents are Fifteen Eleven who represent a lot of the players we've brought in (Tait, Clay, Heneghan) https://1511management.com/profiles/elton-ngwatala/ Seems very much like a Motherwell type signing, a gamble from the lower league, which has worked well for you recently. Your comment above about MJ is far too reasoned and sensible as well. An article on the harriers website from 2016 claimed he was on £150 a week, so it's hardly an over expensive gamble. Just have to wait and see how he looks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, DigOutYourSoul said: Seems very much like a Motherwell type signing, a gamble from the lower league, which has worked well for you recently. Your comment above about MJ is far too reasoned and sensible as well. An article on the harriers website from 2016 claimed he was on £150 a week, so it's hardly an over expensive gamble. Just have to wait and see how he looks. Ha. Deleted my post after I saw you'd already mentioned Fifteen Eleven and didn't want to double up. In honesty we seem to have moved on from signing from non-league under Robinson. Most of the signings last summer were from League 1 level or thereabouts but it's fair to say that we've done alright from non-league recruitment. Moult and Johnson are the obvious ones but Richard Tait was at Grimsby when they were non-league we've just extended his contract and he's been captaining the side lately. He's been one of our most consistent performers this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Quote from some fan on their twitter.."Can play cm, cam or a winger and can thread passes through an eye of a needle on his day. Needs to be more consistent but a very good player."Obviously the lad has been playing at a lower level than ourselves but it's relatively a cheap gamble which is fine with me. It's good we're scouting the lower leagues as there's obviously great talent there like the Motherwell players above and ICT boys in the past.Does anyway know if we actually have scouts? I mind McCann moaned about our scouting system last summer but I've not heard anything since unless it's been done behind the scenes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Lads, I've spoken with the other Pars fans and we've agreed to take El Bak off your hands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderDee Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: Lads, I've spoken with the other Pars fans and we've agreed to take El Bak off your hands. I can drop him off if you like.......I hope you're not joking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, G_Man1985 said: So first signing an attacking midfielder. A good start. Welcome to Dundee. Agree with this. Creativity and goals from midfield is something we lacked this season and looks like McCann has tried to start filling this gap with Ngwatala. This gives me a bit of confidence that he has a plan for the summer and as I said earlier, that he's probably done a fair bit of scouting the boy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, SpiderDee said: I can drop him off if you like.......I hope you're not joking Nope. I'm quite serious. We'll have him back. Bring him home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburns Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, DA Baracus said: Nope. I'm quite serious. We'll have him back. Bring him home. You are welcome to him as far as I'm concerned. He's good for the odd cracker of a goal but outside of that he's been a poor player for us. However I think Neil McCann rates him quite highly and unless he's fallen out with the boy I reckon he'll be given another chance this season. If he does stay, i'd be playing him in role similar to the way Stewart played for us, driving into the box from the wing and smashing in a curler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristov Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 You are welcome to him as far as I'm concerned. He's good for the odd cracker of a goal but outside of that he's been a poor player for us. However I think Neil McCann rates him quite highly and unless he's fallen out with the boy I reckon he'll be given another chance this season. If he does stay, i'd be playing him in role similar to the way Stewart played for us, driving into the box from the wing and smashing in a curler. I think he's more effective driving forward from midfield but he needs to be more aware of players around him and distribute more rather than always going for a, rarely on target, shot. He also needs to either bulk up or use his size and speed better- far too lightweight. I can't not like the guy but he needs to acclimatise to the Premiership quickly- I just can't see that happening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossDee01 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 You are welcome to him as far as I'm concerned. He's good for the odd cracker of a goal but outside of that he's been a poor player for us. However I think Neil McCann rates him quite highly and unless he's fallen out with the boy I reckon he'll be given another chance this season. If he does stay, i'd be playing him in role similar to the way Stewart played for us, driving into the box from the wing and smashing in a curler. What makes you think McCann rates him? He's hardly played all season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D TOTAL Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 sounds like they will miss him and was always going to be playing at a higher level 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Lads, I've spoken with the other Pars fans and we've agreed to take El Bak off your hands. Let’s get pished!!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 When people are talking about an prolific striker, what would they be happy with is a goal every 2-3 games prolific at this level, or are we talking about trying to find someone whose going to score a goal every game and half? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburns Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DigOutYourSoul said: When people are talking about an prolific striker, what would they be happy with is a goal every 2-3 games prolific at this level, or are we talking about trying to find someone whose going to score a goal every game and half? I'd settle for a goal every two-three games in a striker as long as we weren't solely reliant on just the striker in question for goals. If we were reliant on him then it'd have to be a goal every 1.5. Edited May 17, 2018 by dburns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee_62 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 When people are talking about an prolific striker, what would they be happy with is a goal every 2-3 games prolific at this level, or are we talking about trying to find someone whose going to score a goal every game and half? 20 goals in the league would suggest prolific to me. That's better than a goal every second game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 20 goals in the league would suggest prolific to me. That's better than a goal every second game. There wasn't a single striker in the league this season who scored 20 goals, so that's probably totally unrealistic in reality, IMO. Which is kind of why I was asking. The second top scorer in league this season had 14 goals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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