Reynard Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Here's a review of Omen Jones latest tome. Just a word for any of Omens fans on here, it sticks the boot in quite hard. I know some of you are sensitive flowers. http://hurryupharry.org/2014/10/21/ignorant-erroneous-unjustified/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Was he speaking about corporation tax in the context of a Scottish referendum or just generally stating that a corporation tax cut is usually regressive. He was speaking about corporation tax cuts. Don't worry - this is all a bit difficult for you. Stick to counting magic beans before going to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He is too left wing. I'm very much in the New Labour camp of the party. I am left wing though, I have left wing views and have been active for my entire adult life campaigning for left-wing and liberal campaigns (most recently campaigning against zero hour contracts). I find people 'in the real world' to be far more right-wing than they are on here. That'll be the 'not left-wing' camp of the party then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogaBonito Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 There's something about him that makes me want to hate him whenever he's on QT, but he puts out decent posts (e.g this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Here's a review of Omen Jones latest tome. Just a word for any of Omens fans on here, it sticks the boot in quite hard. I know some of you are sensitive flowers. http://hurryupharry.org/2014/10/21/ignorant-erroneous-unjustified/ A political blog makes a political point regarding a book review? Shocker. So what is this Harry's Place all about? The first line pretty much said it all for me: 'Harry's Place was supportive of the 2003 invasion of Iraq...' The first line of the review has a political dig about Jones being part of the establishment. Load of pish. Not exactly a great start. Then denies that there is a desire to privatise the NHS. Oh good stuff. I'm out by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He is too left wing. I'm very much in the New Labour camp of the party. I am left wing though, I have left wing views and have been active for my entire adult life campaigning for left-wing and liberal campaigns (most recently campaigning against zero hour contracts). I find people 'in the real world' to be far more right-wing than they are on here. You can call yourself whatever you like but it doesn't make it the case. The Labour Party haven't been left wing since the days of Kinnock - and even then questionably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Of course they adjusted benefits etc. That is the point of the Laffer curve. People have their own view of how much tax is "too much", and will enter into (legal) avoidance when their own predetermined limit is reached. That's why more planning is done at 50% than at 45%. You have missed the point. The 50% tax rate was avoidable purely as a result of the time it was in place. A tax rate needs to be in place for more than two years before you can ascertain the effectiveness. Otherwise you structure the pay so that the first year is missed by front loading and the second by back loading. This has nothing to do with Laffer curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 You can call yourself whatever you like but it doesn't make it the case. The Labour Party haven't been left wing since the days of Kinnock - and even then questionably.It depends where you place the centre. They're quite clearly centre left to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Pie and Bovril is the only place where being a member of a left-wing party apparently doesn't make you left-wing. I thought you were a Labour Party member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It depends where you place the centre. They're quite clearly centre left to me. Political Compass has then centre right. I think it's just a mythical and traditional view that has the current labour party as centre left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 All buckled lefty fucks tend to descend into this sort of argument. The "how lefty" are you debate. What a bunch of fucking c***s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It depends where you place the centre. They're quite clearly centre left to me. Shurely "of you"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The problem with left-wing people is that they have a tendency to believe that anyone slightly to the right of them is right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The problem with Labour supporting shitgibbons is that they harbour a delusion that their party is anything other than a centre-right rump outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The problem with Labour supporting shitgibbons is that they harbour a delusion that their party is anything other than a centre-right rump outfit. A rump outfit? They'll be the biggest party at the next general election in Scotland, Wales and England. Hows that a rump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The problem with left-wing people is that they have a tendency to believe that anyone slightly to the right of them is right wing. 'Ed Milliband is too left wing' is not a sentiment anyone except the readership of the Daily fucking Mail should ever be uttering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 A rump outfit? They'll be the biggest party at the next general election in Scotland, Wales and England. They won't. The Conservatives were and are the biggest party in England, and the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They won't. The Conservatives were and are the biggest party in England, and the SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. They WON'T? OK... The SNP have 6 MPs the last time I looked. How many do "rump" Labour have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 They WON'T? OK... The SNP have 6 MPs the last time I looked. How many do "rump" Labour have? Having more MPs isn't the definitive criteria for judging party size, champ. And even if it were, this would guarantee that the Conservatives, not Labour would be the largest party in England. Which they are already under any definition. Thanks for playing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Having more MPs isn't the definitive criteria for judging party size, champ. And even if it were, this would guarantee that the Conservatives, not Labour would be the largest party in England. Which they are already under any definition. Thanks for playing anyway. Oh OK. We'll just need to run with the definition of six MPs not being a rump and 41 being a rump then shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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