DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 You live in Dundee and seem to think that delaying ending austerity is fine. Which party consistently abstained on austerity measures?I'll give you a clue.It wasn't the SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Detournement said: It's not saving England. Austerity has massively fucked Scotland as well. You're make a grand argument for the union right here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Sturgeon was magisterial tonight and I would hazard that quite a few English audience members wish they could vote for her party. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Does revoking article 50 mean you think 17.4 million people are stupid?Yes absolutely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 That woman who asked the question if Leave voters were stupid is definitely stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Detournement said: Labour are already fucked by having to clean up the Tory mess from Brexit which will take the best part of a year. Why should they have to go straight to another referendum which will stop them from getting on with their program? Get the Brexit stuff cleared up in 2020. Take a breather from constitutional stuff and if there is an Indy majority in May 2021 Holyrood elections then go for a referendum in 2022 or 2023. 1) How does signing a section 30 order delay the ending austerity program? Please be specific. 2) An indy majority, you say? I thought Labour's current position was that it had to be a majority SNP government at Holyrood? Can you confirm, please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Whatever party you plan to vote for, you have to admit that Nicola Sturgeon is an absolute class apart in this debate tonight. Calm, measured, honest and attempting to answer all points of all questions. First class performance. Correct. Even the folk who passionately claim otherwise must know deep down that she is streets ahead of any other political leader in the UK. No wonder her opponents hate the 'fucking cow'. Fair play to the audience too. One or two a bit off with their grasp of the facts but all pretty grown up compared to what I was expecting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Meenter. Dear me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Jesus Christ, only 3 questions in and Swinson is floundering. Not really a surprise though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 H_B or Swinson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 BothH_B or Swinson? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: 5 minutes ago, dorlomin said: H_B or Swinson? C - both of the above 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 1 minute ago, lichtgilphead said: 1) How does signing a section 30 order delay the ending austerity program? Please be specific. 2) An indy majority, you say? I thought Labour's current position was that it had to be a majority SNP government at Holyrood? Can you confirm, please? Clearly Indyref1 and Brexit put other issues on the back burner. Indyref2 will as well. If Labour win an election they deserve some time to deal with real politics. 2) I'm not the Labour leadership mate, I can't confirm or deny anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Detournement said: Surely you think putting conditions on austerity is a scummy move? She literally said one of the conditions of her supporting a minority government was 'an end to austerity'. She also said she expected Corbyn to recognise the right of self determination. So what's it to be ? An end to austerity and Indy ref 2, or a tory government and an absolute heads gone on here because she doesn't pass your personal Marxist purity test ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Detournement said: It's not saving England. Austerity has massively fucked Scotland as well. Obviously. Better stay in a union that votes Tory most of the time then eh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Just now, Henderson to deliver ..... said: She literally said one of the conditions of her supporting a minority government was 'an end to austerity'. She also said she expected Corbyn to recognise the right of self determination. So what's it to be ? An end to austerity and Indy ref 2, or a tory government and an absolute heads gone on here because she doesn't pass your personal Marxist purity test ? So you think it's ok to vote down the Labour budget if Labour don't agree on Indyref2 in 2020 or 2021? The Holyrood elections are the perfect time to take the temperature on Indyref2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 This is painful in the extreme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 She must wish she went on first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alan Stubbs said: Obviously. Better stay in a union that votes Tory most of the time then eh. If there is an opportunity to end austerity in January and it gets knocked back we might not get the chance again for a decade. Even if we get Indy the SNP plan requires more austerity so it would surely be better from the Labour position than the current Tory baseline. People have had a boot on their throat for a decade, lifting and granting relief should be number one priority for anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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