Fotbawmad Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Of course Britain should give foreign aid to poorer countries. Many of whom Britain fucking pillaged for centuries. Foreign aid is taking from poor people in rich countries to give to rich people in poor countries. It creates a lot of corruption in these poor countries as people are desperate to get into power so they can stuff their pockets with foreign aid money. It's often a way of keeping bad regimes in power. That would normally collapse under their own weight. Just because they happen to have favourable foreign policy towards us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Foreign aid is taking from poor people in rich countries to give to rich people in poor countries. It creates a lot of corruption in these poor countries as people are desperate to get into power so they can stuff their pockets with foreign aid money. It's often a way of keeping bad regimes in power. That would normally collapse under their own weight. Just because they happen to have favourable foreign policy towards us. Uh-huh. And you'll no doubt have evidence for this claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Uh-huh. And you'll no doubt have evidence for this claim? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10545685/Britain-spends-500m-on-foreign-aid-for-most-corrupt-countries.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815115/Confirmed-foreign-aid-fuels-corruption-Official-watchdog-s-verdict-aid-spending-Cameron-defiantly-ring-fenced.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Uh-huh. And you'll no doubt have evidence for this claim? Do you want the short answer or the long answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 UKIP are turds, but that was as nasty a political hatchet job as you'll ever see on British tv, more like a Fox News production. I expect if the SNP had been the subjects, the reaction on here would be very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10545685/Britain-spends-500m-on-foreign-aid-for-most-corrupt-countries.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815115/Confirmed-foreign-aid-fuels-corruption-Official-watchdog-s-verdict-aid-spending-Cameron-defiantly-ring-fenced.html Just so you know, the fact that you have referenced articles from the Telegraph and Daily Mail does not reflect well on you. Like, at all. How embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 UKIP are turds, but that was as nasty a political hatchet job as you'll ever see on British tv, more like a Fox News production. I expect if the SNP had been the subjects, the reaction on here would be very different. True, if the SNP hadn't shown competent governance in Scotland for the best part of a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just so you know, the fact that you have referenced articles from the Telegraph and Daily Mail does not reflect well on you. Like, at all. How embarrassing. You asked for evidence, I provided. Better luck next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 You asked for evidence, I provided. Better luck next time. Yes, because articles written in right-wing rags who also just happen to be sympathetic to your nonsense view is cold, hardcore evidence. Unlike say, a published academic paper. What an utter nightmare you're having here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 UKIP are turds, but that was as nasty a political hatchet job as you'll ever see on British tv, more like a Fox News production. I expect if the SNP had been the subjects, the reaction on here would be very different. You would have a point if the SNPs policies were built on quicksand like UKIPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yes, because articles written in right-wing rags who also just happen to be sympathetic to your nonsense view is cold, hardcore evidence. Unlike say, a published academic paper. What an utter nightmare you're having here. Well the ball is in your court now to provide evidence to the contrary, clearly you're more informed than the telegraph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I've still to hear any explanation from the anti immigrant brigade about how they plan to replace all those immigrant doctors and nurses. I wonder how much of a strain on the NHS there would be of we had to call back the million or so old codger Brits that stay in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 You asked for evidence, I provided. Better luck next time. Evidence from two right-wing rags is not evidence. It's bias. No doubt some money does go to the wrong people - just like our welfare benefits some more than others. You could say the same for charity too and yet I know folk who've been abroad in Africa, the Middle-East and South America working for charities, sometimes with some state support, and they were on the ground working with and for the local poor. Anyway, good to see Ch4 laying into Ukips army of weirdos, swivel-eye fash and out-an-out nutters. Didn't see the show but did they speculate on how Ukip would counter the gay-donkey problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yes, because articles written in right-wing rags who also just happen to be sympathetic to your nonsense view is cold, hardcore evidence. Unlike say, a published academic paper. What an utter nightmare you're having here. Here is an interesting paper if you are interested in evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 UKIP sympathisers are in my experience, to a man, froth mouthed roasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The ignore option exists for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The government should stop giving aid to Arbroath. See how long it lasts. Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete's Frontier Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Just for teh UK I've still to hear any explanation from the anti immigrant brigade about how they plan to replace all those immigrant doctors and nurses.I wonder how much of a strain on the NHS there would be of we had to call back the million or so old codger Brits that stay in Europe. We're 'taking in' 250,000 a year, and that's just the net legal figure, What percentage of those do you think are registered nurses and qualified medical practitioners? 1 or 2% maybe? There is such a thing as controlled immigration you know, also known as good immigration, bring in people that have the skills needed to fill shortages and might actually be net contributors over a sustained period, I.E pay your pension when you're an old fart, It's what sane countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand have in place and why they have much smaller budget deficits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The government should stop giving aid to Arbroath. See how long it lasts. Aberdeen needs to be taxed more. For the greater good IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 I've still to hear any explanation from the anti immigrant brigade about how they plan to replace all those immigrant doctors and nurses. I wonder how much of a strain on the NHS there would be of we had to call back the million or so old codger Brits that stay in Europe. I know liberals like to whitewash the immigration debate by labeling everyone a racist who disagrees with them and focusing on the ones we need. I have no problem with an open border policy, but you can't have open borders and a massive redistributionist welfare state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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