Ira Gaines Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Trump is incapable of acting like a leader, so saying he should act like one is a bit irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Clinton has the first question at the Town Hall debate. There's any number of directions she could go. I wouldn't at all be surprised if this turned out to be an Eagleton type incident and Trump is forced out. If he doesn't offer a very humble apology in the debate, but the sounds of things Pence is likely to step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 9 hours ago, strichener said: She is guilty of murdering children. Aye but apart from that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 For all the chat of turning the electoral map inside-out, the latest FiveThirtyEight forecast basically has the electoral college almost exactly the same as 4 years ago. The only changes are North Carlolina going back Democrat and one of the Maine districts going GOP. Even on Obama's first victory the only changes of note are the loss of Indiana and the loss of a Nebraskan district. What that conceals is that the states that are the most marginal are changing, with the coast states going more Democrat and the Rust-belt going more GOP. In some respects this election might be a bit like the Scottish component of the 2010 General Election: apparent stagnation of overall result concealing massive demographic changes. If Clinton can win on the same scale as Obama 4 years ago and win back the Senate, the GOP are in grave trouble. The demographics in the next 4-8 years are massively in the Democrats' favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Donald isn't taking it well. The debate tonight has him responding to "independent voters" close up. It's going to get ugly. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37602090 "US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and his team have come out fighting after a slew of attacks over his obscene remarks about women." "And most Republican voters would appear to support his stance. In the first poll since the release of the tape, by Politico/Morning Consult, some 74% of Republican voters believe the party should continue to support him." "His adviser Rudy Giuliani said Mr Trump may well bring up Mrs Clinton's alleged role in discrediting women who accused her husband Bill of sexual abuse." Well thats not surprising, rather than take the sensible course of action, he is taking the stupid one. Well at least this should be entertaining **Update** Not on til 2am here, shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 How much difference will the comments made by Trump actually make? It's not as if people voting for him were doing so under the delusion that he was a nice guy, everyone already knew a what an arsehole he was, but for whatever reason that didn't seem to matter. If you thought that he was going to 'bring back our jobs' and improve your life and his disgusting personality wasn't an issue last week, is it going to be an issue now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, EdgarusQPFC said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37602090 "US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and his team have come out fighting after a slew of attacks over his obscene remarks about women." "And most Republican voters would appear to support his stance. In the first poll since the release of the tape, by Politico/Morning Consult, some 74% of Republican voters believe the party should continue to support him." "His adviser Rudy Giuliani said Mr Trump may well bring up Mrs Clinton's alleged role in discrediting women who accused her husband Bill of sexual abuse." Well thats not surprising, rather than take the sensible course of action, he is taking the stupid one. Well at least this should be entertaining **Update** Not on til 2am here, shite 74% support for a party's candidate from registered voters this late into election season is by a country mile a record low. He should be polling in the high 90s, if not 100%. Giulliani can afford to go all in on Trump because 1. if somehow the moron wins, Rudy will get a cabinet post and 2. he has nothing left to lose. And, I guess, 3. he's batshit mental as well. I'm seriously considering getting up to watch it. How Trump responds will be fascinating. If he doesn't apologies, he loses his VP. If he does apologise, he crushes the validity of all of the macho posturing that Banana is trying to satirise and gives Clinton all the material she needs to dismiss all of his opinions on women's issues. I tend to think he's going to come out swinging, apology be damned, and things are going to get very ugly indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Diamonds are Forever said: How much difference will the comments made by Trump actually make? It's not as if people voting for him were doing so under the delusion that he was a nice guy, everyone already knew a what an arsehole he was, but for whatever reason that didn't seem to matter. If you thought that he was going to 'bring back our jobs' and improve your life and his disgusting personality wasn't an issue last week, is it going to be an issue now? It's a good point. You need to realise quite how unpopular Clinton is. Not quite as unpopular as the trolls on here make out, but really, not far off. This particular election will have a record number of ostensibly undecided voters who don't want to vote for either candidate but won't vote for the impossible third. 50% of those undecided voters are women. Most of the undecided most certainly don't use language like that (that's true for the majority of registered voters too, most likely). In an election which, if he had run his campaign even semi-competently he could easily have won, yet he seems to be imploding with the most stupidly amateurish campaign. It's almost as if he doesn't want to be president and is tanking intentionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 To think the American Presidency could be decided by the phrase "Grab 'em by the pussy!". If only he'd said "Kick 'em in the pie!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: 74% support for a party's candidate from registered voters this late into election season is by a country mile a record low. He should be polling in the high 90s, if not 100%. Giulliani can afford to go all in on Trump because 1. if somehow the moron wins, Rudy will get a cabinet post and 2. he has nothing left to lose. And, I guess, 3. he's batshit mental as well. I'm seriously considering getting up to watch it. How Trump responds will be fascinating. If he doesn't apologies, he loses his VP. If he does apologise, he crushes the validity of all of the macho posturing that Banana is trying to satirise and gives Clinton all the material she needs to dismiss all of his opinions on women's issues. I tend to think he's going to come out swinging, apology be damned, and things are going to get very ugly indeed. Your absolutely right about the ratings, but 74% is a damn sight higher than i expected it to be, i would have expected it in the 50% region after the response his comments got. Im still pondering about staying up for it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Right on cue, Breitbart have released an interview with one of Bill's alleged rape victims. I might watch the debate later too, it'll be more entertaining than any of the football I've seen this weekend anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Right on cue, Breitbart have released an interview with one of Bill's alleged rape victims. I might watch the debate later too, it'll be more entertaining than any of the football I've seen this weekend anyway. Breitbart have taken over his campaign since the GOP bailed. He's got 2 videos linked on his twitter feed about stuff about Bill that was dealt with in the 90's. Having the basis of your campaign that despite being a beast. your opponent's husband used to be accused of being a beast too, does not inspire confidence in his prospects. The clever thing for both candidates tonight would to not raise the issue, and to be brief if questioned, and move onto policy. Thankfully for entertainment value this has no chance of happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Breitbart have taken over his campaign since the GOP bailed. He's got 2 videos linked on his twitter feed about stuff about Bill that was dealt with in the 90's. Having the basis of your campaign that despite being a beast. your opponent's husband used to be accused of being a beast too, does not inspire confidence in his prospects. The clever thing for both candidates tonight would to not raise the issue, and to be brief if questioned, and move onto policy. Thankfully for entertainment value this has no chance of happening. Trump promised in his "apology" to discuss Bill's assaults, did he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Savage Henry said: Trump promised in his "apology" to discuss Bill's assaults, did he not? He did, and he's been banging on about it on twitter ever since. It would be a brilliant twist for him to leave it well alone and concentrate on policy and humility, but he's thick as f**k and I fully expect him to implode spectacularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 10 hours ago, welshbairn said: It's the President who authorises drone strikes, not the Secretary of State. The State Department had the power to authorise CIA drone strikes. The FBI Report into her e-mails have shown that she approved drone strikes from her mobile FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, strichener said: The State Department had the power to authorise CIA drone strikes. The FBI Report into her e-mails have shown that she approved drone strikes from her mobile FFS. Links please. To my knowledge she could neither action a drone strike or prevent one. The responsibility is with the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The Clinton Campaign has released this footage of Trumpers making the draw for the 1992 Rumbelow's Cup Quarter Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 He actually comes across as the perfect gentleman there. Bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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