Another referendum?

[forever_blue]

Disagree. Milliband and Murphy where inept... but Scotland was sick of labour and its inability to stick up for Scotland.

Parts of Glasgow have the highest poverty in the western world. Thanks labour

Can someone tell me measure are in place by the snp or even in a independent Scotland are in place to tackle the poverty in Glasgow etc , I have heard countless statements of how it is unacceptable but what ideas are going to be put in place to combat these conditions which have not already been tried . This is not a snide or offensive question I am genuinely interested in an answer and discussion on the matter

[Anonapersona]

Can someone tell me measure are in place by the snp or even in a independent Scotland are in place to tackle the poverty in Glasgow etc , I have heard countless statements of how it is unacceptable but what ideas are going to be put in place to combat these conditions which have not already been tried . This is not a snide or offensive question I am genuinely interested in an answer and discussion on the matter

Until FFA and ultimately independence, there's always going to be a lot of speculation but nothing can be considered to be concrete. A lot of trust has been handed to the SNP and it is up to them to deliver, or become like Labor. Personally, I trust them to deliver. Many do not. Fine.

I think it's safe to say that poverty in Glasgow is pretty low on the Tory totem pole. Always will be.

[strichener]

Can someone tell me measure are in place by the snp or even in a independent Scotland are in place to tackle the poverty in Glasgow etc , I have heard countless statements of how it is unacceptable but what ideas are going to be put in place to combat these conditions which have not already been tried . This is not a snide or offensive question I am genuinely interested in an answer and discussion on the matter

The SNP plan to engineer a nuclear "accident" at faslane to erradicate west coast poverty and solidify the anti-nuclear lobby.

[Granny Danger]

The SNP plan to engineer a nuclear "accident" at faslane to erradicate west coast poverty and solidify the anti-nuclear lobby.

There's some places on the west coast where nuclear devastation would probably be regarded as urban redevelopment. Win-win.

[Mr Rational]

I'm confident that the SNP will not have it within the Holyrood manifesto.

[Granny Danger]

I'm confident that the SNP will not have it within the Holyrood manifesto.

I reckon that it could depend on the legislative programme that is brought forward for Westminister in the coming weeks.

If proposals to withdraw from ECHR is a sign of things to come it could be the catalyst for another Referendum.

Sturgeon could possibly word the Manifesto in a way that gives her a mandate without obliging her to follow through.

[boabinoban]

Disagree. Milliband and Murphy where inept... but Scotland was sick of labour and its inability to stick up for Scotland.

Parts of Glasgow have the highest poverty in the western world. Thanks labour

Scotland may be sick of Labour but that doesn't mean a majority of the Scottish public want independence.

[oddly optomistic]

I reckon that it could depend on the legislative programme that is brought forward for Westminister in the coming weeks. If proposals to withdraw from ECHR is a sign of things to come it could be the catalyst for another Referendum.Sturgeon could possibly word the Manifesto in a way that gives her a mandate without obliging her to follow through.

I thought he was talking about a nuclear accident ????

[Mr Rational]

I reckon that it could depend on the legislative programme that is brought forward for Westminister in the coming weeks. If proposals to withdraw from ECHR is a sign of things to come it could be the catalyst for another Referendum.Sturgeon could possibly word the Manifesto in a way that gives her a mandate without obliging her to follow through.

It might not be us that brings it forward

[pandarilla]

I reckon that it could depend on the legislative programme that is brought forward for Westminister in the coming weeks. If proposals to withdraw from ECHR is a sign of things to come it could be the catalyst for another Referendum. Sturgeon could possibly word the Manifesto in a way that gives her a mandate without obliging her to follow through.

I think this would be an error. It would look like a clear political trick - and she has so far managed to convince people that she is on a different level.

She needs to be straight up with the Scottish people. We're good at sniffing out the bullshit.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

There's some places on the west coast where nuclear devastation would probably be regarded as urban redevelopment. Win-win.

You could say the same about some parts of Dundee.

[TapothehullDee]

No, no. It ends with a yes vote. Happy to help.

You won't be alive in 2150 though.

[FuzzyAffro]

I think this would be an error. It would look like a clear political trick - and she has so far managed to convince people that she is on a different level.

She needs to be straight up with the Scottish people. We're good at sniffing out the bullshit.

Tbf, given the no vote, I think we are clearly shite at sniffing out bullshit. I think that's undeniable, 55% of us anyway.

[pandarilla]

Tbf, given the no vote, I think we are clearly shite at sniffing out bullshit. I think that's undeniable, 55% of us anyway.

Fair point. I should've said snp supporters (those switched on politically) are good at sniffing out bullshit.

[FuzzyAffro]

That's true, and they are the majority of SNP voters anyway.

[Elixir]

Could they not put a possible scenario in their manifesto which would trigger another referendum?

For example: should the EU referendum result in Scotland being withdrawn against its will in 2017?

That would appease many members and be the smart move. Another referendum so soon, just for the sake of it, would be a bit pointless and likely lose again.

[Granny Danger]

I think this would be an error. It would look like a clear political trick - and she has so far managed to convince people that she is on a different level.

She needs to be straight up with the Scottish people. We're good at sniffing out the bullshit.

Not really. The Manifesto is for a five year period. It would be deceitful if there wasn't a commitment in the Manifesto for a Referendum then, during that five year period, a set of circumstances arose that merited calling a further Referendum. I think you would agree that this is a very real possibility.

However if there was wording along the lines that Sturgeon outlined in the run up to the election just past; i.e. a material change to circumstances like EU withdrawal would give her an appropriate mandate. That seems to me both up front and legitimate.

ETA Elixer beat me to it because I'm doing this with sausage fingers on an iPhone.

[kevthedee]

Not really. The Manifesto is for a five year period. It would be deceitful if there wasn't a commitment in the Manifesto for a Referendum then, during that five year period, a set of circumstances arose that merited calling a further Referendum. I think you would agree that this is a very real possibility.

However if there was wording along the lines that Sturgeon outlined in the run up to the election just past; i.e. a material change to circumstances like EU withdrawal would give her an appropriate mandate. That seems to me both up front and legitimate.

ETA Elixer beat me to it because I'm doing this with sausage fingers on an iPhone.

If sturgeon does not get extra powers over and above what the smith comission agreed to she may well use that as her reason to push for another vote.

[Fide]

If sturgeon does not get extra powers over and above what the smith comission agreed to she may well use that as her reason to push for another vote.

Indeed.

#sexysocialism

[Kyle]

Considering all the parties involved agree that the Smith Commission doesn't go far enough, the Westminster Tories don't have much option but look into the Bill further.