DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 You're batshit mental then. Thanks for confirming. It's you that's batshit mental. Cutting corporation tax is not exactly a left-wing policy - is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 It's you that's batshit mental. Cutting corporation tax is not exactly a left-wing policy - is it? See post #219, you abject bore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 See post #219, you abject bore. There's a good boy Fido. Hands up - when it comes to economics I may seem a bore to you - but then my understanding goes beyond your back of an envelope economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 There's a good boy Fido. Hands up - when it comes to economics I may seem a bore to you - but then my understanding goes beyond your back of an envelope economics. You're copying the Fido bants? Dear me. Any other unionist soundbites you want to throw my way? Do you intend to make a career out of an H_B parody act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 You're copying the Fido bants? Dear me. Any other unionist soundbites you want to throw my way? Do you intend to make a career out of an H_B parody act? Did I hit a nerve Chakademus?Anyhow - unlike H_B I don't rely on Anthony C Pick for my economic arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 It's you that's batshit mental. Cutting corporation tax is not exactly a left-wing policy - is it? Yes, that's why Labour did it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Yes, that's why Labour did it twice. Idiot found. I did say in the post previous that most political parties were right of centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Did I hit a nerve Chakademus? Anyhow - unlike H_B I don't rely on Anthony C Pick for my economic arguments. Chakademus! For that alone, I shall let you off your myriad faults! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Wait.. Are you claiming the SNP are a left of centre party???? Fucking hell Point to where I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Idiot found. I did say in the post previous that most political parties were right of centre. Apart from the SNP who are quite obviously centre left. Too centrist for me but anyone claiming that the SNP are centre right is a total thicko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Apart from the SNP who are quite obviously centre left. Too centrist for me but anyone claiming that the SNP are centre right is a total thicko. Economically thicko. Economically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Q: How do you define a party who have different strands of butthurt detractors calling them rabid pinko communists and right-wing simultaneously? A: Successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Economically thicko. Economically. What a tit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Q: How do you define a party who have different strands of butthurt detractors calling them rabid pinko communists and right-wing simultaneously? A: Successful. Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Depends on how you define left-wing. In terms of social policy left of centre, economically they are right-of-centre (like almost every other political party).If you think "almost every" party is right of centre then you might want to reconsider where you think the centre actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Point to where I said that. Ummmmm.. Its on this page. Have you forgotten you did that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No that's me saying what I think, and that I spend a lot of my spare time working towards, should happen. The SNP should be occupying that Centre left position both socially and economically. The question was does Scotland need a Centre left party. My response is Yes, and that party should be the SNP. The only extent to which Scotland "needs" a party further left than what the SNP provide, whilst remaining electable, can be provided by the Greens. Labour are utterly irrelevant and not needed save for the last remaining lunatics who believe progressive politics and social democratic alternative can be achieved through Westminster. These old labour types sitting praying for the "king over the water" of a Bennite/Bevan labour party to reappear are kidding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No that's me saying what I think, and that I spend a lot of my spare time working towards, should happen. The SNP should be occupying that Centre left position both socially and economically. The question was does Scotland need a Centre left party. My response is Yes, and that party should be the SNP. Well, you could just as easily say it should be the Conservatives, but isn't yet. The SNP are never going to be a centre left party - they are just too diverse a grouping. Where, in blind squirrel finding nut fashion Sodje Stubbs was correct is that the SNP are successful by managing to be all things to all people, with a broad range from centre left to centre right. They are pretty close to being perfectly centrist just now. To achieve what you wish, there would need to be a split in the party, with an offshoot attempting to become the acceptable face of scottish socialism. That might be what would have happened post Independence, and it would be interesting. The SNP of Swinney and Souter are never going to accept your Sheridan tendencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Well, you could just as easily say it should be the Conservatives, but isn't yet. The SNP are never going to be a centre left party - they are just too diverse a grouping. Where, in blind squirrel finding nut fashion Sodje Stubbs was correct is that the SNP are successful by managing to be all things to all people, with a broad range from centre left to centre right. They are pretty close to being perfectly centrist just now. To achieve what you wish, there would need to be a split in the party, with an offshoot attempting to become the acceptable face of scottish socialism. That might be what would have happened post Independence, and it would be interesting. The SNP of Swinney and Souter are never going to accept your Sheridan tendencies. Eh? Noting that the SNP has people simultaneously slagging them for being both left and right wing, does not imply that they are both things. And that's obvious. To spell it out, It implies that many* of their critics are unreasonable, intellectually dishonest slavers. For people who self-identify as social democrats / left of centre, they could've been more radical and ambitious for my taste. There's been a few occasions when I've heard them say they have "assurances" on employment conditions and other things from Serco or whoever, which have had me pulling my hair out. I obviously don't think they're a right wing party though. *You might counter this by saying the same thing applies to Labour. Which is true, many of their critics are intellectually dishonest slavers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Yip SNP and then a bit further left the greens. The SNP would need to move to the left to occupy the ground that the Labour Party should be occupying. Also in a post Independent Scotland the SNP will not be able to be all things to all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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