boabinoban Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 :lol:I'm sorry. I was wrong to say that - nothing is ever going to be better than when Rangers died. What a fucktard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If this is the first time you've ever come across someone talking of Rangers' demise gleefully I'd say you can't/shouldn't really be lamenting your impending departure from P&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Doink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Get fucked. What a fucking narrow minded shitey irrelevant post of utter w**k. Un-bathered exhibit A Corbyn should be interesting, probably quite good fun and will force Labour to find itself again, but nowhere near as funny as when rangers died. I ended up rupturing my Shatners bassoon laughing at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 What a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloop John B Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Labour are a busted flush regardless of who was elected but I agree with the sentiment that Rangers dying was absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Utter drivel. I've read plenty of your posts, and you normally seem pretty reasonable, but so much of what you just typed comes across as bitter and hate filled. I could go into this a lot more but again it's way off topic. Also it seems pointless getting into this kind of debate when no one actually seems to have any grasp of the facts. You have the facts?. How about some predictions based on these facts. How will this change by Labour affect Scottish Labour and the direction of the party up here, where Labour failed spectacularly in the general election from being in a strong position after the referendum?. A lot of people will assume Labour will make a shift to a more left wing stance in policies which might be a huge mistake in this day and age where policies from the main parties in Britain have been drifting to the right over the last 20 years, is there a place for a socialist Labour in this day and age?. I haven't been following the Labour leadership at all, but going on the news today it caught my interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Corbyn=McCoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You have the facts?. How about some predictions based on these facts. How will this change by Labour affect Scottish Labour and the direction of the party up here, where Labour failed spectacularly in the general election from being in a strong position after the referendum?. A lot of people will assume Labour will make a shift to a more left wing stance in policies which might be a huge mistake in this day and age where policies from the main parties in Britain have been drifting to the right over the last 20 years, is there a place for a socialist Labour in this day and age?. I haven't been following the Labour leadership at all, but going on the news today it caught my interest. I think there's a place for a socialist party precisely because of the drift to the right. The biggest betrayal of the Blair years was not fulfilling the traditional role of repairing the damage done to our social fabric by years of the Tories. The result has been an erosion of societal responsibility allowed to run unchecked for almost thirty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Basically agree but is Corbyn the guy to do it? Nicola Sturgeon has already challenged him to stand with the SNP over not replacing Trident. Can he take all the Blairites with him on that when he has defied the Labour whip over 500 times as an MP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityDave Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Basically agree but is Corbyn the guy to do it? Nicola Sturgeon has already challenged him to stand with the SNP over not replacing Trident. Can he take all the Blairites with him on that when he has defied the Labour whip over 500 times as an MP? Labour will never move forward if the leadership are scared into compromising for the sake of a decreasing band of pink Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think this is my favourite report on the Corbyn win. http://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/editors-blog/2015/09/kind-politics-britain-150913001016352.html " - Jeremy Corbyn winning the Labour leadership is like Aberdeen beating Real Madrid in a European final. It really happened, but you have to pinch yourself to believe it is true." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Corbyn's off to a flyer. Did one broadcast interview post election yesterday, with BBC Newsbeat (children's thing) and declined an appearance on Andrew Marr today. I'm not sure that the best way to begin to take Labour in a new direction is to effectively blank the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Basically agree but is Corbyn the guy to do it? Nicola Sturgeon has already challenged him to stand with the SNP over not replacing Trident. Can he take all the Blairites with him on that when he has defied the Labour whip over 500 times as an MP? Think he has been clear that he would vote against trident as for his mps he should give them a free vote,i dont like this follow the party policy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 It's not possible to run a stable government in the British parliamentary system if there is no party discipline. Free votes are usually restricted to a few moral issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 i dont like this follow the party policy crap.Yes, your post history certainly backs this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Un-bathered exhibit A Corbyn should be interesting, probably quite good fun and will force Labour to find itself again, but nowhere near as funny as when rangers died. I ended up rupturing my Shatners bassoon laughing at that. Very happy to brighten your day ???? I suppose I can only expect hostility after all the wee diddies have been remorselessly pumped rotten for over a century and will continue ad nauseum. As you were ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Going to be an interesting year or so for Labour. Parties have always had their individual issues on which they are split (Europe for the Tories) but this could lead to an ideological split in the Labour Party. Corbyn will have a huge fight on his hands to unite the party behind him but if they do move left and MP's rebel against him then it simply makes you wonder why those same politicians joined Labour in the first place. Surely they'd have been better just joining the Tories from Day 1. Yes politics in general has moved more to the right in the past 35-40 years but to have any sort of balance across the political spectrum all views have to be represented. I'm not advocating that Labour suddenly go so far lurching to the left that they become unelectable but the drift towards the Tories has gone on too long for Labour and getting into bed with them over Indy was too much for many in Scotland. However, it could prove an electoral disaster. I think due to the power of the SNP they are a busted flush in Scotland and a huge proportion of the English electorate have become so right wing it's almost frightening. Public opinion down south on welfare, immigration, justice to name a few leaves very little room for manoeuvre to the left. Anyway, it'll be more exciting than if any of the other three won and he'll ask questions of this shower that are in power at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wonder if Dugdale will now come out and tell us she is against Trident being renewed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I wonder if Dugdale will now come out and tell us she is against Trident being renewed She cant win no matter what she does,if she says it must go then people will just say she has changed her mind because she was told to by westminster,if she says it must stay then the snp and anti-tridents groups will use that against her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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