Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I laughed.Good . That's my hidden but partially visible agenda when I'm having a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Roaring trade for the Tories in Troon today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Roaring trade for the Tories in Troon today.... ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1456578425.797189.jpg The richest town in Ayrshire as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 £23 million of cuts by SNP administration in Dundee - what do Labour do? Propose writing a letter then abstain. Jesus fucking wept. As you are well aware the SNP have a council majority in dundee so labours vote would have been a token gesture.The SNP say that they want to listen to the people,well in this case they have refused to do that,party before the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 As you are well aware the SNP have a council majority in dundee so labours vote would have been a token gesture. The SNP say that they want to listen to the people,well in this case they have refused to do that,party before the people. Living with tory austerity is what you wanted,because scots cant be trusted to run our own affairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Living with tory austerity is what you wanted,because scots cant be trusted to run our own affairsExcept this is SNP austerity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Except this is SNP austerity.Is it?Then if people think so then they have the chance to say so in may Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Is it?Then if people think so then they have the chance to say so in mayNah their a bit too in awe of the mighty SNP fighting austerity by refusing to raise revenues and getting people made redundant as a result.If only there was some powers they could use to alleviate that....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Nah their a bit too in awe of the mighty SNP fighting austerity by refusing to raise revenues and getting people made redundant as a result.If only there was some powers they could use to alleviate that.......Yip raise taxes to hurt the poorest in society when another party mentioned this a few years the red version of the tories laughed it off but now seemingly north british labour have it all figured out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Yip raise taxes to hurt the poorest in society when another party mentioned this a few years the red version of the tories laughed it off but now seemingly north british labour have it all figured outAnd when councils swing the axe it will of course be the "poor" at the bottom that will suffer because the SNP can't find the time to work out how to get middle income and above types to cough up a wee bit more in council tax.The sad thing is most SNP voters i know realise this is crap about helping "the poor" but seem to find it hard to admit to themselves.The freeze has been great for me but i really could pay more to maintain services but apparently that's not necessary or appropriate? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Nah their a bit too in awe of the mighty SNP fighting austerity by refusing to raise revenues and getting people made redundant as a result.If only there was some powers they could use to alleviate that....... You're right - it's obviously the people that are stupid. Be sure to keep telling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 And when councils swing the axe it will of course be the "poor" at the bottom that will suffer because the SNP can't find the time to work out how to get middle income and above types to cough up a wee bit more in council tax.The sad thing is most SNP voters i know realise this is crap about helping "the poor" but seem to find it hard to admit to themselves.The freeze has been great for me but i really could pay more to maintain services but apparently that's not necessary or appropriate? ?Dont have the power to only raise taxes for those that can afford it but you just keep that lip trembling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 And when councils swing the axe it will of course be the "poor" at the bottom that will suffer because the SNP can't find the time to work out how to get middle income and above types to cough up a wee bit more in council tax.The sad thing is most SNP voters i know realise this is crap about helping "the poor" but seem to find it hard to admit to themselves.The freeze has been great for me but i really could pay more to maintain services but apparently that's not necessary or appropriate? ? "I could pay more tax" does not equate with "I'd happily pay more tax". Here in Fife Jim Leishman trousers about an extra 20 grand a year for wearing a shiny chain (as provost) which involves him turning up to things occasionally. I'd rather have another binman for that cash tbh. If certain local authorities were given carte-blanche to set the council tax as they saw fit, they would take the absolute piss. Just like before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 "I could pay more tax" does not equate with "I'd happily pay more tax". Here in Fife Jim Leishman trousers about an extra 20 grand a year for wearing a shiny chain (as provost) which involves him turning up to things occasionally. I'd rather have another binman for that cash tbh. If certain local authorities were given carte-blanche to set the council tax as they saw fit, they would take the absolute piss. Just like before. Aye fine lets leave it as it is then but nae greetin about Westminster bad men being responsible for job losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Aye fine lets leave it as it is then but nae greetin about Westminster bad men being responsible for job losses. You are in favour of an increase. How much for say, Band D property- C1 kinda gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You are in favour of an increase. How much for say, Band D property- C1 kinda gig.Not a clue mate but them im not a politician thats their job.Unless reform is impossible time they got on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 As you are well aware the SNP have a council majority in dundee so labours vote would have been a token gesture. The SNP say that they want to listen to the people,well in this case they have refused to do that,party before the people. I am perfectly aware seeing I live in Dundee - it's just gutless abstaining - as for not proposing an alternative budget - that is ridiculous.If you think that is acting like a proper opposition then clearly you are even more deluded than I thought you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 In Dundee you would need to raise council tax by 50% to offset the cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 In Dundee you would need to raise council tax by 50% to offset the cuts. All seems fine and well IA, lot of doomsday talk over nothing thankfully, although it's ashame the street cleaners went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Of the 200 posts that will be deleted 60 are already vacant and there has been 600 applications for VR/ER. Problem is we need to do it all again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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