mjw Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Of course we all care on here but in the wider world people outside Liverpool are going to be less fussed about it all now.I fucked up on that one. I thought a couple of posts were going down the 'who cares about Hillsborough ' line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I am sorely tempted to go that way personally. As much as I dislike the Tories policies on a range of things, they are the only party prepared to be reasonable in regards to taxation. Everyone else wants to spend, spend, spend. I'd agree with that if we were spending on things likely to generate further business or jobs but all I keep hearing about from every other party is that money will be taken from those who are successful and simply handed to those at the bottom thus neatly retaining the culture of dependency that we must break if we are ever going to be a successful country pre and post independence. The culture of dependency is THE issue of our times right now and nobody is prepared to event talk about it (other than the Tories) let alone actually solve it and by doing so solve the issue of poverty (whatever that is because despite asking many many times on here nobody has actually defined it) once and for all. It's absolutely fair enough to vote for the Conservatives in this election, I am leaning that way myself. My confusion was pointed at those who are voting elsewhere on the constituency vote and Tory on the list. Where is their constituency vote going and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Tories voting tactically in constituencies that they don't have a hope? Like almost all of them. Tactically for who, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Tactically for who, exactly? Presumably the candidate with the best chance of defeating the SNP's candidate. There are a few constituencies where Labour could hold their seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Presumably the candidate with the best chance of defeating the SNP's candidate. There are a few constituencies where Labour could hold their seat. Name the seats where anyone other than the SNP has a chance? Name them? This should be a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRuffian Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Edinburgh Western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Losing Edinburgh Western would be dreadful for the SNP. Realistic chances of the SNP losing: Orkney (Lib Dems) Shetland (Lib Dems) Ayr (Conservatives) Dumfriesshire (Conservatives) Eastwood (Conservatives) Ettrick, Roxburgh & Berwickshire (Conservatives) Galloway & West Dumfries (Conservatives) Labour are far more likely to fall to third in Dumfriesshire & Eastwood than hold them. If there are any seats other than those the SNP fail to take it's a shock, and failing to take any of the above would be a disappointment for them. Obviously if that comes to pass the List will still give them a majority, but they should really be taking a majority from the constituency vote alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Name the seats where anyone other than the SNP has a chance? Name them? This should be a laugh. Orkney and Shetland for starters. A new Survation poll says that the Tories will win seats in Eastwood, Ayr, Dumfriesshire, Ettrick & Roxburghshire and Galloway - https://rollingpolling2016.wordpress.com/2016/05/03/survation-1st-2nd-of-may/. I don't believe it unless there is a lot of tactical voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 One would think the latent Tory vote would be out in force this election given the talking up of their "taking second place" that has been ongoing. This is the best chance they've ever had to actually achieve something in a Scottish election - if they can't do it now, they never will. For that alone I'm assuming that Tories who might ordinarily not bother will be out trying to remind Scotland that they exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Whoever decided the backing music for the SNP's PEB that was played on BBC One after Reporting Scotland should be shot at dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Losing Edinburgh Western would be dreadful for the SNP. Realistic chances of the SNP losing: Orkney (Lib Dems) Shetland (Lib Dems) Ayr (Conservatives) Dumfriesshire (Conservatives) Eastwood (Conservatives) Ettrick, Roxburgh & Berwickshire (Conservatives) Galloway & West Dumfries (Conservatives) Labour are far more likely to fall to third in Dumfriesshire & Eastwood than hold them. If there are any seats other than those the SNP fail to take it's a shock, and failing to take any of the above would be a disappointment for them. Obviously if that comes to pass the List will still give them a majority, but they should really be taking a majority from the constituency vote alone. Those are the exact 7 seats I would be mentioning. The two Islands will stay Lib Dem. The other 5 I think will be split between the SNP and the Tories. I think the SNP will win Ayr, Dumfriesshire and G&WD with the Tories keeping ERB and gaining Eastwood from Labour. Labour have literally no chance of winning any of Scotland's 73 constituencies. Just take a moment to let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rational Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Edinburgh Western. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Also some talk that the Tories could win back Edinburgh Pentlands which would shock me personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Also some talk that the Tories could win back Edinburgh Pentlands which would shock me personally dont talk pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Those are the exact 7 seats I would be mentioning. The two Islands will stay Lib Dem. The other 5 I think will be split between the SNP and the Tories. I think the SNP will win Ayr, Dumfriesshire and G&WD with the Tories keeping ERB and gaining Eastwood from Labour. Labour have literally no chance of winning any of Scotland's 73 constituencies. Just take a moment to let that sink in. Shetland will fall to the SNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Shetland will fall to the SNP I wouldn't be so sure, that is one of the toughest seats, if not the toughest, for the SNP to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Shetland will fall to the SNP From what I've heard Orkney is more likely to go SNP than Shetland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I wouldn't be so sure, that is one of the toughest seats, if not the toughest, for the SNP to take. It came down to 800 votes last year and Westminster is normally harder for the SNP. Also the Lib Dem incumbent was a Minister. That Lib Dem incumbent is now disgraced. The SNP vote which ran Carmichael so close will be rock hard. I don't see the Lib Dem vote being as rock hard post Carmichael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetwiseHercules Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 From what I've heard Orkney is more likely to go SNP than Shetland.Indeed. Didn't Orkney vote SNP last year. Post Carmichael, they've got to have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 From what I've heard both are going to stay orange surprisingly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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