Hillonearth Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, kilbowie2002 said: going down the only road youve ever known? Ironically, David Coverdale's voice has been shot for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 10 hours ago, strichener said: It all seems a rather crude attempt at population control. Unfortunately the one shooting are the ones needing shot. It's so common now in the US that it's became boring. Which is a fucking messed up thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 hour ago, EdgarusQPFC said: It's so common now in the US that it's became boring. Which is a fucking messed up thing Yes, I remember when I was over there earlier this year and there was a shooting where 3 people were killed. Little made of it on the news which was rather surprising. When I mentioned this in the office, it was met with "only 3, hardly newsworthy" Fucked up country, fucked up mindset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, strichener said: Yes, I remember when I was over there earlier this year and there was a shooting where 3 people were killed. Little made of it on the news which was rather surprising. When I mentioned this in the office, it was met with "only 3, hardly newsworthy" Fucked up country, fucked up mindset. After watching the police dash cam and bodycam footage of this latest shooting, its very questionable. There's no doubt that the guy who was shot, Keith Scott, has a history of violence and weapons related charges but the police have been very vague as to why they were there. They say they were there to arrest someone else and witnessed Scott holding a gun. His family claim he was holding a book, which is not uncommon for him. Police have shown pictures of a gun and holster they say they recovered from the scene. They claim the officer who fired the shots was not wearing a body cam, which is a little questionable. None of the footage either from the dash, bodycam or the guys wife, who filmed it all on her phone show any signs of the suspect holding a gun. There are plenty of unjustified shootings by police in the US, there is no doubt of that whatsoever but there are also justified shootings aswell, which category this one is in i cant say but im leaning towards unjustified unless the police can show more evidence than they already have. Problem is that these Black Live's matter activists act like every single shooting is completely unjustified and that its just "the white man" killing African Americans, when thats hardly the case at all Edited September 25, 2016 by EdgarusQPFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 The BLM demands, apparently: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskychimp Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) The defunding of the police department should certainly decrease the number of shooting. . Best demand in there as far as I can see. Edited September 25, 2016 by whiskychimp 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Firing the police without evidence and releasing all the looters and rioters will certainly help too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 There was a BLM spokeswomen on 5Live last week who wanted an end to capitalism,all she got was an end to her interview. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I've got no idea what happened to Mr Scott. Everyone seems to have made their minds up though, on either side. The expectation of HD quality video of every incident is taking over though, and cops will have to have multiple Go cameras set at different angles on constant record in case they have to shoot someone while taking a dump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewBornBairn said: The BLM demands, apparently: "The release off all the names of the officers involved, we swear we wont target them, we promise to be nice" They want to demilitarize, remove funding and community control of the police department. Aye no bother pal. "Repression and targeting of protestors" Aye cause its not like they are doing anything wrong like, those cars were already on fire But back to wanting community control of the police, control is always the motive of all these new age protestors, be it BLM or SJW's they want control over everything, be it what you are and arent allowed to talk about, or what the police do. Edited September 25, 2016 by EdgarusQPFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 How do they expect to be taken seriously without headed paper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, kilbowie2002 said: At least they arent asking for much! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 23 hours ago, EdgarusQPFC said: After watching the police dash cam and bodycam footage of this latest shooting, its very questionable. There's no doubt that the guy who was shot, Keith Scott, has a history of violence and weapons related charges but the police have been very vague as to why they were there. They say they were there to arrest someone else and witnessed Scott holding a gun. His family claim he was holding a book, which is not uncommon for him. Police have shown pictures of a gun and holster they say they recovered from the scene. They claim the officer who fired the shots was not wearing a body cam, which is a little questionable. None of the footage either from the dash, bodycam or the guys wife, who filmed it all on her phone show any signs of the suspect holding a gun. There are plenty of unjustified shootings by police in the US, there is no doubt of that whatsoever but there are also justified shootings aswell, which category this one is in i cant say but im leaning towards unjustified unless the police can show more evidence than they already have. Problem is that these Black Live's matter activists act like every single shooting is completely unjustified and that its just "the white man" killing African Americans, when thats hardly the case at all Are there justified shootings though? Plenty of other nations, including those which have a high presence of gun use, manage to go at least a week without shooting somebody. There seems to be a massive kill first and ask questions later policy which isn't right at all. Why do they never look at other options? even things like using tasers - which aren't without risks, would surely help in reducing the rates of police shootings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jambomo said: Are there justified shootings though? Plenty of other nations, including those which have a high presence of gun use, manage to go at least a week without shooting somebody. There seems to be a massive kill first and ask questions later policy which isn't right at all. Why do they never look at other options? even things like using tasers - which aren't without risks, would surely help in reducing the rates of police shootings. You only get one go at using a taser and if it misses you've had it. It can't be used against multiple people and doesn't tend to work if the person you're aiming for is wearing sufficient clothing for the barbs to fail to reach the body. The police in the US stop thousands and thousands of people on foot and in vehicles every day and don't shoot them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Six people have been wounded in a shooting at a shopping centre in Houston in the US state of Texas. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37469757 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarusQPFC Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 29 minutes ago, Jambomo said: Are there justified shootings though? Plenty of other nations, including those which have a high presence of gun use, manage to go at least a week without shooting somebody. There seems to be a massive kill first and ask questions later policy which isn't right at all. Why do they never look at other options? even things like using tasers - which aren't without risks, would surely help in reducing the rates of police shootings. If a nutcase is running about with a gun shooting people and refuses to stop. Do the police have much else of a choice but to shoot him? Pretty much every country has some form of armed response unit for situations where a taser and some mace(in yo face) arent a viable solution. The US has a insane number of guns and the police are well armed to counter that, but the public argue they arm themselves for protection against intruders and the police(something to do with the second amendment) so its a constantly spiraling situation that wont ever end because the people who sell the guns make far too much money and buy influence in the US Government to ensure that it wont ever end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) There were six people shot dead in separate incidents across the US on the same day, Keith Scott and five white men. Still waiting on the mass media to report and handwring over the these five white people, and their white communities to engage in days of rioting. Edited September 26, 2016 by banana 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 There were six people shot dead in separate incidents across the US on the same day, Keith Scott and five white men. Still waiting on the mass media to report and handwring over the these five white people, and their white communities to engage in days of rioting. Shot by the police? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Shot by the police? Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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