Cream Cheese Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 There won't be a next time. I'm all out of 50 pence pieces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crilly Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 This thread reflects debates in Holyrood and Westminster. Come on folks cut out the childish slagging and abuse and stick to intelligent discussion. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Sit down, nobody cares about your moralising drivel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 My suspicion is that regionalists - sorry, proud and patriotic Scottish unionists - fear a second referendum more than the first because they know that, in the wake of the Brexit vote, there'll be no claiming that they want Scotland to remain in an equal partnership of nations. Next time they'll have to argue in favour of Scotland doing what the rest of the UK wants no matter what its people vote for at the ballot box. *Poof* goes "Scotland having a strong voice" and "Scotland leading the UK not leaving it". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 *Poof* Reported for cyberhomophobicnaterry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) Right, humour me here; The Claim of Right Act 1689, has it ever been repealed or superseded? If not, is that not bit of a constitutional headache for Westminster? I've found some articles referring to it, from both sides of the independence debate: http://wingsoverscotland.com/weekend-sovereignty-for-dummies/ https://www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2012-01-26.38.30 Does this have basis? Or is this another "freeman on the land" bit of nonsense? Edited September 13, 2016 by SweeperDee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Still stands. If so, what does it mean for Scotland then? We are inexplicably sovereign? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Westminster will do what Westminster does,and try to ignore it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 09/09/2016 at 15:31, vikingTON said: Failed link; shit post; 0/10. Better luck next time, chump. My eyesight is failing but there is no need to address me as champ. Those day's are long over, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 10 hours ago, SweeperDee said: Right, humour me here; The Claim of Right Act 1689, has it ever been repealed or superseded? If not, is that not bit of a constitutional headache for Westminster? I've found some articles referring to it, from both sides of the independence debate: http://wingsoverscotland.com/weekend-sovereignty-for-dummies/ https://www.theyworkforyou.com/sp/?id=2012-01-26.38.30 Does this have basis? Or is this another "freeman on the land" bit of nonsense? The last comment at the end of that wings article is incredibly pertinent along with the article itself. Good line of thought mate and something I'm going to look more into. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The last comment at the end of that wings article is incredibly pertinent along with the article itself. Good line of thought mate and something I'm going to look more into. Libbers will still try to claim that in Scotland sovereignty does not lie with the people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Surely the diplomat can't argue with the bill of rights which has been checked, verified and confirmed as the big blue go button. King Eck saying earlier that the stars will align in 2018. Hurrah, I'll still have enough years in me to be Scottish in Scotland, and not kowtowing to anyone else 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehawhehaw Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 let's make it every tomorrow, each year. That would be great! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, hehawhehaw said: let's make it every tomorrow, each year. That would be great! Nah. Let's just hold it once more. That should be enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Article 50 will be invoked early 2017. Will Sturgeon go for indyref2 within the 2 years? I think she will. I've no idea what the polls will be like in 2018/19, but even if they don't hit the fabled 60% I think she will still take the gamble. I fully expect the Yes vote to be in the lead by then but perhaps we won't reach 60% in the next 5 to 10 years? She won't or perhaps can't wait that long to hold indyref2. Salmond predicting an other referendum in 2018 - I have to agree. Many thought Sturgeon wouldn't hold indyref2 until she is absolutely sure of winning with high lead in the polls. I've a feeling the lead won't be massive when we go to the polls again. I believe we're in for another nailbiter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Was just gonna say Looks like it's 2018 lads Buckle up for round 2 of who knows how many rounds [emoji41] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: Was just gonna say Looks like it's 2018 lads Buckle up for round 2 of who knows how many rounds Doubt it will happen. But if it does hate this keep having a vote until we get the result that we want, that is not democracy my friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Was just gonna say Looks like it's 2018 lads Buckle up for round 2 of who knows how many rounds [emoji41] Rd 3 you mean its 1 all so far 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 So the" belt and braces" approach is dumped for a 2018 "take a gamble" approach even if polling suggests a defeat.Desperation to get the correct referendum result is going to crash and burn Indy2.That said i doubt even Nippy is daft enough for that approach.Hope so though.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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