Baxter Parp Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Cue some arsehole telling us how the SNP have ruined the police in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On 04/12/2020 at 05:59, The_Kincardine said: When I was a member of the Orange Order - and this is going back 40+ years - I was always uncomfortable with our lodge having a junior section. The idea of celebrating the Williamite revolution is, as we all agree, a good one but the social implications are such that it's best left to adults. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Something for the arseholes to think about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Baxter Parp said: Something for the arseholes to think about. This was posted at 4am... Just caught up on the last few pages, a good laugh was had. The self righteousness and circle jerking here is actually off the scale, I imagine a lot of posters in this thread sincerely believe they are "the good guys" where as their poor loved ones and normal people in society just see some withdrawn conspiracy type racists going further down a rabbit hole of nationalism and identity politics. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Gordon is alive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 This was posted at 4am... Just caught up on the last few pages, a good laugh was had. The self righteousness and circle jerking here is actually off the scale, I imagine a lot of posters in this thread sincerely believe they are "the good guys" where as their poor loved ones and normal people in society just see some withdrawn conspiracy type racists going further down a rabbit hole of nationalism and identity politics. What does posting at 4am have to do with anything, I often used to post on here at a similar time when I was working nights there’s many reasons someone could be up at that hour assuming he’s in this country. And as around 50% of the population seem to be in favour of independence I highly doubt all these peoples loved ones and “normal people” see it as some withdrawn conspiracy you make it sound like Scottish independence is a small cult movement. Labelling Nationalists as racists is lazy and I’ll informed as it’s civic nationalism not ethnic there’s a huge difference, the odd idiot who doesn’t like the English is hardly prevalent in the movement. You may as well use the often lazy Yes voters are Nationalist and Socialists therefore NAZIs which is just a total misunderstanding of those words. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: What does posting at 4am have to do with anything, I often used to post on here at a similar time when I was working nights there’s many reasons someone could be up at that hour assuming he’s in this country. And as around 50% of the population seem to be in favour of independence I highly doubt all these peoples loved ones and “normal people” see it as some withdrawn conspiracy you make it sound like Scottish independence is a small cult movement. Labelling Nationalists as racists is lazy and I’ll informed as it’s civic nationalism not ethnic there’s a huge difference, the odd idiot who doesn’t like the English is hardly prevalent in the movement. You may as well use the often lazy Yes voters are Nationalist and Socialists therefore NAZIs which is just a total misunderstanding of those words. I'm going to guess by the quality of the posts that the man wasn't in a sober state, sharing such SNP propaganda certainly would back that up. Yeah not necessarily supporting SI but the way in which you do it is the point, I'd imagine 55% of the country would have concern over people believing such ridiculous posts as the one the poster made. You can downplay the amount of racist nationalists you have in the support if you like just be sure to call it out when you see it. -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I'm going to guess by the quality of the posts that the man wasn't in a sober state, sharing such SNP propaganda certainly would back that up. Yeah not necessarily supporting SI but the way in which you do it is the point, I'd imagine 55% of the country would have concern over people believing such ridiculous posts as the one the poster made. You can downplay the amount of racist nationalists you have in the support if you like just be sure to call it out when you see it. Imagine sharing “SNP propaganda” on a page for discussing Indyref2 where should he share it the Celtic v St Johnstone thread? As for 55% are you using the figures of 2014 as there is nothing to back up 55% being pro Union in 2020 and far more to show it’s closer to 45% or is the 55% gospel until a generation or lifetime has passed. I’ll call out any racists in the Yes movement if I see it but will you do the same for the Better together side? I guarantee you’ll be a lot busier than I will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: Imagine sharing “SNP propaganda” on a page for discussing Indyref2 where should he share it the Celtic v St Johnstone thread? As for 55% are you using the figures of 2014 as there is nothing to back up 55% being pro Union in 2020 and far more to show it’s closer to 45% or is the 55% gospel until a generation or lifetime has passed. I’ll call out any racists in the Yes movement if I see it but will you do the same for the Better together side? I guarantee you’ll be a lot busier than I will. I just wouldn't share shite propaganda from any political party but maybe that's just me.. I'm using the figures that are the most accurate, you can presume it's 50-50 if you want but I'll go with the only conclusive results we've had in the past decade or so. I find racism abhorrent on all sides, it's frightening that in my response to potential downplaying of racism within the Yes movement your instant reply is what about "Better Together". It's certainly not a competition.. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I just wouldn't share shite propaganda from any political party but maybe that's just me.. I'm using the figures that are the most accurate, you can presume it's 50-50 if you want but I'll go with the only conclusive results we've had in the past decade or so. I find racism abhorrent on all sides, it's frightening that in my response to potential downplaying of racism within the Yes movement your instant reply is what about "Better Together". It's certainly not a competition.. Yea just stick with figures that are nearly 7 years out of date it’s not like anything has changed that could possibly alter those figures what with Brexit, Covid and the current government being the most corrupt in the history of the Union, you just ignore every poll that doesn’t suit your position. As for racism I wouldn’t take the moral high ground when you sit at Ibrox and listen to 90 minutes of anti Irish pish getting belted out from the stands. And it was you that was calling one side racist on here not me, I pointed out there’s racism on both sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, San Starko Rover said: Yea just stick with figures that are nearly 7 years out of date it’s not like anything has changed that could possibly alter those figures what with Brexit, Covid and the current government being the most corrupt in the history of the Union, you just ignore every poll that doesn’t suit your position. As for racism I wouldn’t take the moral high ground when you sit at Ibrox and listen to 90 minutes of anti Irish pish getting belted out from the stands. And it was you that was calling one side racist on here not me, I pointed out there’s racism on both sides. I'd rather go with the figures from a process used to answer the question rather than speculation from the internet... You're so pathetic, I didnt try and take high ground I just pointed out it was strange you were playing whataboutery with racism, that's very unhelpful if you're sincere in wanting to tackle racism. You're actually seething right now bringing Rangers into this, I don't want you to make it to the heads gone section mate calm down. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I'd rather go with the figures from a process used to answer the question rather than speculation from the internet... You're so pathetic, I didnt try and take high ground I just pointed out it was strange you were playing whataboutery with racism, that's very unhelpful if you're sincere in wanting to tackle racism. You're actually seething right now bringing Rangers into this, I don't want you to make it to the heads gone section mate calm down. I’m not seething in the slightest and there is no need to resort to insults that’s truly “heads gone” you’re better than that. If you’re going to use statistics nearly a decade out of date to justify your position there really is no point engaging with you as those statistics are completely irrelevant as I’ve stated much has changed in the UK since 2014 so to assume that opinions haven’t changed is quite frankly ludicrous coupled with the fact that thousands of voters have died and been replaced by voters who’ve come of voting age. Polls may not be 100% reliable but give a good indication, how many polls show the 45/55 still remains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, doulikefish said: Gordon is alive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Unionist logic2019 Hung Parliament, polls showing Tory majority if they call a general election. But polls are not definitive and the only reliable data they have is the last election result which still says Hung Parliament. Best not bother calling a General Election and just assume nothings changed in voting intentions as polls don’t mean anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 San Starko Rover owning Stormzy here.Delicious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 San Starko Rover owning Stormzy here.DeliciousStormzy doing a great job of owning himself here.It is a great spectator sport right enough 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: San Starko Rover owning Stormzy here. Delicious Where? You're such a back up dancer btw. Certainly one of those obviously not very bright posters. You can tell even your pro Indy pals on here cringe when you try and get involved. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Where? You're such a back up dancer btw. Certainly one of those obviously not very bright posters. You can tell even your pro Indy pals on here cringe when you try and get involved. I'm actually quite balanced tbf, ask @Kincardine. But he's absolutely destroying your assertion that people's opinions can't change over time. Clear as glass m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 It is a great spectator sport right enoughIt's really not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Stormzy said: This was posted at 4am... Just caught up on the last few pages, a good laugh was had. The self righteousness and circle jerking here is actually off the scale, I imagine a lot of posters in this thread sincerely believe they are "the good guys" where as their poor loved ones and normal people in society just see some withdrawn conspiracy type racists going further down a rabbit hole of nationalism and identity politics. You talking about yourself sunshine? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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