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8 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

5 years ago polls were not in favour of independence.
 

Quite they've only just got consistently over 50%. Call one now in the middle of Covid and see that number plunge. Put a Cherry on top and forget about it for 20 years.

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1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

Can gay people not be bigots?

Better tell Milo Yianoppolous that he’s in the clear.

Or QCs. It's a wonder we spent so long trying to get our rights acknowledged what with the top minds of the legal profession unquestioningly being on our side all this time.

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Just now, Stinky Bone said:

Are you and NTP asking the same question here?  If so, please ask it in alien terms, because I haven't got a fucking clue what you are speaking about, and you all claim to be socialists. 

I’ll try then.

Do you think that even if something isn’t necessarily a criminal act, it can still be unacceptable? 

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

You've taken a definite distrust for trans people without having met one, it's a fair question.

You have no idea what that scum thinks.

He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are.

I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts.

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3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

You have no idea what that scum thinks.

He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are.

I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts.

I tend to see him more as someone who believes what he says, but takes it to the utmost extremes to get the attention that you refer to.

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35 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said:

So how long was his sentence then? 

Don't be a pedantic arsehole, he walked from court a free man. 

If you cant get that important detail right, don't expect to be taken seriously. 

Just to be clear, nobody is found innocent in a Scottish criminal trial. At best they are found not guilty, which means the prosecution haven't proven their case beyond reasonable doubt. The jury could have regarded the defendant as pure as the driven snow and the victim of calumnious and scurrilous allegations; at the other end they could have regarded the defendant as dodgy as fk but the prosecution were just short of the evidence needed to make them sure. There are many criminal trials in which the jury believe there's a more than 50% chance the defendant is guilty, but that's not enough in a criminal trial. 

Salmond did indeed walk from court a free man, but everyone is entitled to form their own view of the behaviour that he admitted under oath and they can give whatever weight they like to the evidence of the witnesses.

In short, just because someone is found not guilty doesn't mean we all need to regard them as innocent. 

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7 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said:

Yes.  

My wife farts in our bed and I don't think that's right. 

Ok, we’re agreed on that then

Do you then accept that even though Salmond ‘walked away from court an innocent man’, this does not mean that his actions were necessarily acceptable, merely that they were not criminal?

This is based on the point which Mixu has been making repeatedly that Salmond did not, to my understanding, deny that any of the stuff happened, merely that it was not criminal.

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7 minutes ago, Stinky Bone said:

It may be simple to you. 

Feigning an inability to understand even the most basic questions. You could get a job working as a columnist for any of the major broadsheets with that skill.

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3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

You have no idea what that scum thinks.

He isn't debating. He's trolling, so we have no idea what his views really are.

I'd urge everyone to stop replying to him because he isn't 'debating'. He's trolling and isn't remotely interested in a debate or conversation. He wants attention and that's it. The tragic moron needs punted again, as do all his increasingly pathetic subsequent accounts.

If anyone want to look at their conduct it's you.   

I don't agree with Pep, but he's entitled to his view and certainly doesn't go about calling people "Scum".  

So many people have tried to help you but you cannot help being so angry and abusive.   

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43 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
58 minutes ago, Stormzy said:
Sturgeon - You have a chance.
Salmond - No chance.
Cherry - Really no chance. 

First and probably only time I'll agree with you.

I'm not actually a mentalist I just enjoy a good troll and give as good as I receive tbf. 

The only people I dislike on here are the people that actively red dot all my posts by habit. Think that's dwindled down to Antillion and the JCB fella. 

Just to make you feel guilty though I do considerably prefer Dundee to Dundee Utd.. 

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1 minute ago, Falcor Roar said:

There's at least a dozen fairly well respected posters at the beginning of the Hillsborough thread with the same ill informed opinion. 

I remember, not sure about who. It was probably during the spell that Bath boy was posting on here. Easily influenced, poor lad. Then he started listening to Graham Linehan. 

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5 hours ago, Baxter Parp said:

I would give this more weight if I didn't know that you have no respect for the FM and simply want her reputation to be trashed.

I am not a fan of the way the SNP are going about governing nor do I think they are being independence any closer.  I think Sturgeon is a good speaker and shows genuine empathy but I don't believe that she is a good strategist.  None of this takes away from the fact that she and the Scottish Government have quite clearly fucked up in the Salmond investigation and should rightly be called.out on it.

1. FM tells Parliament that she will fully cooperate with the enquiry and then doesn't.

2. The FM tells Parliament that the first time she knew about this was in a meeting with Salmond.  It wasn't.

3. The FM held a.meeting with a representative of Salmond and did not record the meeting or did record the meeting and it was subsequently removed fronher diary.

4. The chief executive of the SNP sends text that would give question to his motives.

5.  The chief executive of the SNP and the FM provide contradictory details on the Alex meeting.  One claiming that it was Party business whilst the other stating that it was Government business. 

 

Anyone that thinks that the two of them never discussed a meeting in their own home where the former First Minister discussed an investigation into his behaviour.  The fallout from which had the ability to affect both the Government and the SNP is either being deliberated blinkered or is an absolute idiot.

 

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