scotfree Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ryan Giggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Agree with Best, Cruyff, Eusebio, Matthews and Bergcamp. Ryan Giggs' performances for Wales were mixed and he often pulled out of international squads. At the risk of abuse, I would add Peter Shilton who should have won a load more caps at the expense of Ray Clemence. Another suggestion is Billy McNeil, a world class defender like Beckenbauer and Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Danny Wilson, incredible player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeboy Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ryan Giggs' often pulled out . Im sure his brother is pleased at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Another suggestion is Billy McNeil, a world class defender like Beckenbauer and Moore. Spot on, another suggestion would be Denis Law. Pisses me off when we fail to include home based players. Baxter, Johnstone, and Henderson would have walked into any team anywhere in the World in the 1960's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Pele and Maradona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitnail Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's painful how out of place Roy Keane is in the OPs line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chlamydia Kid Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 George Weah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Spot on, another suggestion would be Denis Law. Pisses me off when we fail to include home based players. Baxter, Johnstone, and Henderson would have walked into any team anywhere in the World in the 1960's. By the same token every country 'bigs-up' their own. Before my time but I'm not so sure about McNeil and Johnstone. Others quite possibly; indeed Law and Baxter were both capped for the Rest of the World v England in 1963 and together with Henderson for the Rest of Europe v Scandanavia the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Before your time but you give short shrift to two of them and the benefit of the doubt to the other three. There's enough video and anecdotal evidence to ensure anyone who never had the privilege of seeing him live can convince themselves of Jimmy Johnstone's talent. As for McNeil, the first British man to lift the European cup, and captain his side in two European Cup Finals. I've always been puzzled by the negativity that surrounds McNeil as a player. You don't get a record like his by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 As for McNeil, the first British man to lift the European cup, and captain his side in two European Cup Finals. I've always been puzzled by the negativity that surrounds McNeil as a player. You don't get a record like his by accident. Plus two European Cup semifinals in 1972 and 1974. The latter was spoiled by Atletico Madrid kicking Celtic off the park. Those were the bad old days when even Barcelona resorted to similar tactics. Celtic were one of the top five sides in Europe under McNeil's captaincy. Jock Stein was a fantastic manager but successful teams need a strong leader on the park. ETA - All the commentators were amazed when Thistle beat Celtic 4-1 in the 71 League Cup Final. There was one key factor that helped us - McNeil was out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradHorse Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Before your time but you give short shrift to two of them and the benefit of the doubt to the other three.There's enough video and anecdotal evidence to ensure anyone who never had the privilege of seeing him live can convince themselves of Jimmy Johnstone's talent. As for McNeil, the first British man to lift the European cup, and captain his side in two European Cup Finals. I've always been puzzled by the negativity that surrounds McNeil as a player. You don't get a record like his by accident. I'm not sure I buy that theory for a lot of older players. I've tried looking into players like Garrincha and Puskas before and it's very hard to find lengthy footage of them playing. Even the likes of Pele, other than a few highlights it's hard to get a real understanding of how he played 90 minutes week in week out, although his goal record does speak for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Chic Charnley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Surely we're at risk of getting a bit carried away here (and regardless of watching clips on YouTube or not). I'm all for blowing our own trumpets: but on the one hand, we are saying that in the 1960s and early 1970s we had 5 or 6 players who would have walked into any team in the world... on the other hand, we did not even manage to qualify for a World Cup between 1958 and 1974; nor any Euros; only won a single Home Nations between 1963 and 1976; and Denis Law was the only one to win European Player of the Year. They're great players, and I'm all for celebrating and lauding our heroes, but you have to keep a bit of perspective too. Being the first Briton to win the European Cup or captain in multiple EC finals is an admirable feat but not an all-conquering one (for starters only Englishmen/Scotsmen/Irishmen/Welshmen could do so). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Do you ever actually watch football? Your opinions, such as they are, tend to be based on stats and records. We all know the Scottish international team during that era was a joke, squads were mainly chosen by selectors, selectors who had their own favourites and their own rules, some refused to pick players serving suspensions. To downgrade a players ability on the basis that this international team won f**k-all is lunacy. I'll stick to using the evidence of my own eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Do you ever actually watch football? Your opinions, such as they are, tend to be based on stats and records. We all know the Scottish international team during that era was a joke, squads were mainly chosen by selectors, selectors who had their own favourites and their own rules, some refused to pick players serving suspensions. To downgrade a players ability on the basis that this international team won f**k-all is lunacy. I'll stick to using the evidence of my own eyes. That seems to be quite the serving of telt you dished out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's painful how out of place Roy Keane is in the OPs line up. Couldn't disagree more, he might be a price but for a few years he would have walked into most teams in Europe. Sent from my iPhone using Pie & Bovril mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattydfc Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ralph Milne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Fernando Ricksen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Gheorghe Hagi and Hristo Stoichkov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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