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3 hours ago, peasy23 said:

A clean sweep of wins for all the British players tonight, with Murray, Norrie, Evans, Draper and Boulter all done in straight sets. Jodie Burrage needed 3 sets to see off Anna Blinkova.

Was a straight sets win for Burrage as well. Sabalenka in the next round though, so it would be a shock if she's in the 3rd round

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Murray on court about 5pm BST again today against 19th seed Grigor Dimitrov.  No idea who'll win this, Dimitrov got to the US Open semis in 2019 then disappeared from the radar a bit, only got past the third round of a major once between 2020 and 2022. Now he's 32 he's having a bit of an indian summer this year, he got to the last 16 at The French Open and Wimbledon. He's always been one of those nearly players, really talented but too soft to win the big titles.  He'll be the favourite certainly, but Murray is playing well and will fancy his chances, should be a cracking match. Winner will probably play Zverev in the third round.

Two more big names fell yesterday, Ruud and Tsitsipas both recent grand slam finalists, both out in the second round.  Djokovic through in straight sets again, took two him two hours this time.  

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Two double faults in a row and them the most limp wristed forehand in tennis history gives Dimitrov the break basically without moving from the one spot. 

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Murray must be one of the last counter punchers still around and in 2023 that style just doesn't work as almost every male tennis player absolutely hammers the ball as hard as they can from both sides. There's just too much pace on the ball these days for him Imo. 

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Yeah that will be a sore one for Andy. Not so much the result, he won’t be surprised that he’s lost, but the one sided nature of the defeat will be tough to take. Dimitrov is a decent player, but he’s not a top player and he won’t be near the business end of this tournament.
That’s the last major of 2023. Does he fancy doing the air miles and the Asian circuit over the Autumn in preparation for the Aus Open in January?

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18 hours ago, Lex said:

Yeah that will be a sore one for Andy. Not so much the result, he won’t be surprised that he’s lost, but the one sided nature of the defeat will be tough to take. Dimitrov is a decent player, but he’s not a top player and he won’t be near the business end of this tournament.
That’s the last major of 2023. Does he fancy doing the air miles and the Asian circuit over the Autumn in preparation for the Aus Open in January?

He said post match that he'll be thinking things over, but one positive going forward is his improved ranking will give him better chances in tournaments. 

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On 31/08/2023 at 21:52, TheScarf said:

Murray must be one of the last counter punchers still around and in 2023 that style just doesn't work as almost every male tennis player absolutely hammers the ball as hard as they can from both sides. There's just too much pace on the ball these days for him Imo. 

Absolutely spot on.  Medvedev is probably the more modern counter puncher, stands ways back but still smashes the ball.  His serve gets exposed more as he can’t grind points as much as he could.

His ambition is still to be seeded at Wimbledon next year, and that starts with trying to get seeded for the Australian.  His team should be looking at the entry lists of any 125, 250 and 500 and entering any potential weaker fields.

 

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1 hour ago, Loki said:

Absolutely spot on.  Medvedev is probably the more modern counter puncher, stands ways back but still smashes the ball.  His serve gets exposed more as he can’t grind points as much as he could.

His ambition is still to be seeded at Wimbledon next year, and that starts with trying to get seeded for the Australian.  His team should be looking at the entry lists of any 125, 250 and 500 and entering any potential weaker fields.

 

Even Wawrinka, 2 years older than Murray, realised in 2013/14 that the new younger guys coming through absolutely cream every ball so he started doing it. If you watch him around 2008-2012 he hits the ball with less force. If you watch Murray from the same time frame, he actually hit the ball harder then than he does now. Murray has gone the other way whilst all the guys who get to the second weeks of majors game are all based around power on both sides. 

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16 hours ago, TheScarf said:

Even Wawrinka, 2 years older than Murray, realised in 2013/14 that the new younger guys coming through absolutely cream every ball so he started doing it. If you watch him around 2008-2012 he hits the ball with less force. If you watch Murray from the same time frame, he actually hit the ball harder then than he does now. Murray has gone the other way whilst all the guys who get to the second weeks of majors game are all based around power on both sides. 

A lot of that was Magnus Norman coming in and introducing the block return to allow him to smash the ball of both wings.

Murray should have went and got Norman in 2019 after the hip resurfacing.

Even Baez last night against Medvedev who is 5 ft 9 was absolutely smashing it.  And was unlucky not to take the third set, a timely rain interruption killed his momentum as he moved 5-2 up.

I can’t see Medvedev troubling either of Alcaraz or Novak.  Alcaraz Sinner is shaping up to be the best QF if they both get through.

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18 hours ago, parsforlife said:

Alvarez is utterly insane,  he’s going to win a hell of a lot, enough to make the last generation of greats worried, it’s just a shame we can’t use some form of time travel to put him up against the big 4 in their prime.

Alcaraz. It's not difficult.

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