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Andy Murray The Greatest and General Tennis Chat


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2 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Guys, Murray is the Scottish/British GOAT of sport.

The fact that’s there’s people trying to argue otherwise is both terrifying and hilarious.

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Federer is 40 in a few weeks, still gliding around the court effortlessly. His physical conditioning is something else.
Get the feeling he could be in the top 20 when he was 50, if he fancied it.

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8 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:
15 hours ago, TheScarf said:
No, then.
So he was better than the likes of Schumacher, Prost, Lauda?

Keep digging

Andy Murray is a Scotland’s greatest ever sportsperson. Not whoever the fuck your think is.

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Andy Murray is a Scotland’s greatest ever sportsperson. Not whoever the fuck your think is.
He is. They're really is no great argument.

But you being a complete dick in your ignorance about Jim Clark wasn't a great look.
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1 minute ago, pandarilla said:

He is. They're really is no great argument.

But you being a complete dick in your ignorance about Jim Clark wasn't a great look.

It's hardly ignorant to not know about some driver, not sportsman, from the 60s who is never mentioned these days in any walk of life.  Over 90% of folk on here would have to Google the name Jim Clark.  Again, that isn't ignorance.  You fud.

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Andy is clearly the greatest, if you don’t believe that then you are clearly deluded. I’d say Chris Hoy is 2nd. 
If we are talking about most successful Scottish sportsman it would be Alex Ferguson by a long way. 

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Is grass the most unpredictable surface? 
Possibly this year more than others as it's been two years since anyone has played on it. It's a particular problem for those who have broken through over that period - they'll be ranked highly without ever having played a big tournament on grass.
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1 hour ago, TheScarf said:

It's hardly ignorant to not know about some driver, not sportsman, from the 60s who is never mentioned these days in any walk of life.  Over 90% of folk on here would have to Google the name Jim Clark.  Again, that isn't ignorance.  You fud.

Sure its not particularly ignorant to not know he is if you're not into motor racing.

But given you acknowledge you had no idea who he is or what he achieved it was pretty ignorant to then immediately start firing out posts trying to discredit his achievements and claiming that he wasn't actually all that great a racing driver. I think a pretty high percentage of people who know what they are talking about would rank Clark ahead of Niki Lauda for example. There's an argument he was better than Prost and Schumacher too to take your other two examples. I think he would be in the top 5 of most people's lists, there's certainly a lot of older folk who were around at the time who would have him at number 1.

None of this is to say he is 'greater' than Andy Murray or whatever, just that most of the arguments you were making about Jim Clark yesterday were pretty misinformed, he is widely viewed as one of the best racing drivers of all time, he was certainly comfortably the best driver in the world in his day during what was a very deep era for drivers.

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1 minute ago, MrWorldwideJr said:

Sure its not particularly ignorant to not know he is if you're not into motor racing.

But given you acknowledge you had no idea who he is or what he achieved it was pretty ignorant to then immediately start firing out posts trying to discredit his achievements and claiming that he wasn't actually all that great a racing driver. I think a pretty high percentage of people who know what they are talking about would rank Clark ahead of Niki Lauda for example. There's an argument he was better than Prost and Schumacher too to take your other two examples. I think he would be in the top 5 of most people's lists, there's certainly a lot of older folk who were around at the time who would have him at number 1.

None of this is to say he is 'greater' than Andy Murray or whatever, just that most of the arguments you were making about Jim Clark yesterday were pretty misinformed, he is widely viewed as one of the best racing drivers of all time, he was certainly comfortably the best driver in the world in his day during what was a very deep era for drivers.

Anyone suggesting Clark is Scotland's greatest ever sportsperson is laughable and ludicrous. 

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