RH33 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: As is Becker. Yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'm watching the football now. No way will Engerland beat either Belgium or Italy. Let me know when it's game over for Andy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 minute ago, ICTJohnboy said: I'm watching the football now. No way will Engerland beat either Belgium or Italy. Let me know when it's game over for Andy. splitter! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdhafc1874 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I'm watching the football now. No way will Engerland beat either Belgium or Italy. Let me know when it's game over for Andy.Now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, sophia said: splitter! Closing the roof seemed to benefit Shapovalov more than Andy. That just wasn't in the script. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscuits Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Came to the conclusion this guy is a bit of a tit I take it back. Actually seems a decent spud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Was well funny a few years ago against Britain in the Davis Cup when he absolutely sconned the umpire with a ball. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just caught the tail end of the Shapovalov interview. Seems like a decent guy - hope he gets to the final and wins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Good tournament from Andy really. The fear was he’d go out in the first or second round, and he got tested in both. Going out in the third round was about par.He was always going to struggle against one of the up and coming guys and it’s no surprise he’s lost in straight sets. Shapolavov is not going to win Wimbledon this year, but he’s levels above Murray at the moment.Question for Andy now is if he’s happy to push his body to the limit to be a jobbing tour pro that goes home in the first week of majors. If he is he could probably do that for another few years. If not, he should wrap it now. Because he’s not getting back to the top again, his body is too far gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 If that's to be Murray's final match on centre it'd be a shame as he deserves a real scrap rather than have someone who is clearly levels above him now. It'd be terrific to see him continue but on the showings of this week I think top 50 is possible, top 30 very unlikely. He just won't get deep enough into tournaments without running into a top 30 player to get any higher I fear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lex said: Good tournament from Andy really. The fear was he’d go out in the first or second round, and he got tested in both. Going out in the third round was about par. He was always going to struggle against one of the up and coming guys and it’s no surprise he’s lost in straight sets. Shapolavov is not going to win Wimbledon this year, but he’s levels above Murray at the moment. Question for Andy now is if he’s happy to push his body to the limit to be a jobbing tour pro that goes home in the first week of majors. If he is he could probably do that for another few years. If not, he should wrap it now. Because he’s not getting back to the top again, his body is too far gone. Going from his interview after the first round, I don’t think he just loves competing. I don’t want to say he doesn’t care about winning or losing, as he obviously does, but if his level turns out to be him being a jobbing tour pro I think he would take that as long as he is out on court. I think the only reason he calls it quits is if his body can’t take it anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 On 01/07/2021 at 09:33, TheScarf said: He's obviously the best Scottish sportsperson of all time. That's not up for debate. People who champion Hoy, Hendry, Dalglish etc are confirmed morons. There's definitely grounds for him be best British sportsperson of all time too. To achieve what he's done in the golden era of tennis is ridiculous. No other British sportsperson has been under as much pressure and scrutiny as him, whilst having to deal with the 3 greatest male players ever in his sport. I would make a case for Mo Farah if it weren't for the fact that 1) he may or may not have been doped to the eyeballs and 2) it's just running. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, GordonS said: I would make a case for Mo Farah if it weren't for the fact that 1) he may or may not have been doped to the eyeballs and 2) it's just running. @Bert Raccoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, PB1994 said: Going from his interview after the first round, I don’t think he just loves competing. I don’t want to say he doesn’t care about winning or losing, as he obviously does, but if his level turns out to be him being a jobbing tour pro I think he would take that as long as he is out on court. I think the only reason he calls it quits is if his body can’t take it anymore. Going by his interviews that's definitely how he feels now. I think he's worked so ridiculously hard over the past 4 years that it's all just a relief to be competitive at all. He lost heavily to the world 12 and 9, but apart from a wobble he hammered the world number 29. I think he'll enjoy winning a match or two at tournaments and maybe he'll take a scalp at some point. But I wonder how long that would be enough for him. It must be so frustrating not being able to do what he could before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Was well funny a few years ago against Britain in the Davis Cup when he absolutely sconned the umpire with a ball. TBH a repeat of that was probably Andy's best/only chance of a win tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1994 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, GordonS said: Going by his interviews that's definitely how he feels now. I think he's worked so ridiculously hard over the past 4 years that it's all just a relief to be competitive at all. He lost heavily to the world 12 and 9, but apart from a wobble he hammered the world number 29. I think he'll enjoy winning a match or two at tournaments and maybe he'll take a scalp at some point. But I wonder how long that would be enough for him. It must be so frustrating not being able to do what he could before. Yeah, that’s a good point. I think you can see that already. He was getting very frustrated/angry when he played shots that he used to be able to pull off but can’t anymore. Maybe it’s down to not playing a lot and some of it will come back to him or it could be that he just can’t do it anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 14 hours ago, PB1994 said: Yeah, that’s a good point. I think you can see that already. He was getting very frustrated/angry when he played shots that he used to be able to pull off but can’t anymore. Maybe it’s down to not playing a lot and some of it will come back to him or it could be that he just can’t do it anymore. Yeah, his post-match comments in The Grauniad suggest, to me anyway, if he can't play his way back into being a contender again then he'll be looking to wind down and retire. Andy Murray’s wild journey ends with thumping from Denis Shapovalov | Wimbledon | The Guardian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I know he's richer than Croesus, but keeping that entourage on the payroll with next to no prize money coming in must seem a bit silly after a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I didn’t realise Raducanu was representing Britain. Toronto born to a Chinese mum and Romanian dad and moved to London when she was 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Raducanu rattled off 5 straight games to win the opening set 6-3 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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