Alex Salmond.

[Granny Danger]

On 13/03/2021 at 11:19, SandyCromarty said:

Salmond is a spent force and now consigned to history.

 

His only role now is as a spoiler; it’s one he seems to relish.

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing the political objective of Scottish Independence and just when the polls are showing that objective of having its highest level of support you take action that you know can only harm it.  What a tragedy.

 

[strichener]

3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

His only role now is as a spoiler; it’s one he seems to relish.

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing the political objective of Scottish Independence and just when the polls are showing that objective of having its highest level of support you take action that you know can only harm it.  What a tragedy.

 

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing a political objective only to find that others that share those objectives feel that it is more important that their "side" of the party keeps power and are quite happy to see you in jail by all possible means.  That's tragic.

[ICTJohnboy]

12 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

His only role now is as a spoiler; it’s one he seems to relish.

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing the political objective of Scottish Independence and just when the polls are showing that objective of having its highest level of support you take action that you know can only harm it.  What a tragedy.

 

It really does beggar belief, that the issue he campaigned for tirelessly throughout his political life has now, in his mind, paled into insignificance given the damage sustained by his ego during that court case. 

 

Edited March 16, 2021 by ICTJohnboy

[paolo2143]

All the evidence including that which Alex Salmond has given shows that the FM was not involved in any conspiracy against him. There may be others who were out to twist knife but we haven't seen a  shred of evidence that she was involved.

Even the so called incriminating Whatsapp messages proved to be nothing.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

All the evidence including that which Alex Salmond has given shows that the FM was not involved in any conspiracy against him. There may be others who were out to twist knife but we haven't seen a  shred of evidence that she was involved.
Even the so called incriminating Whatsapp messages proved to be nothing.

Unless you are H_B

[sophia]

22 minutes ago, strichener said:

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing a political objective only to find that others that share those objectives feel that it is more important that their "side" of the party keeps power and are quite happy to see you in jail by all possible means.  That's tragic.

Not quite his whole life. Sometimes he got pissed and behaved inappropriately

2 minutes ago, paolo2143 said:

All the evidence including that which Alex Salmond has given shows that the FM was not involved in any conspiracy against him. There may be others who were out to twist knife but we haven't seen a  shred of evidence that she was involved.

Even the so called incriminating Whatsapp messages proved to be nothing.

and why would there be those predisposed to twist the knife?

Oh, could it be, at the least, something to do with his old school hair drier style of management?

@Granny Dangerhas it. Salmond would be better served and might elevate his reputation from gorgeous George gutter levels with a bit of mia culpa and perhaps he could get to a place that approaches his previous popularity amongst a section of the voting public. But let us be honest, he'll never have the appeal of Nicola.

[John Lambies Doos]

Unfortunately for Salmond, not only is he a busted flush, he's also fat and as an old barren wife.
#spent

[O'Kelly Isley III]

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing a political objective only to find that others that share those objectives feel that it is more important that their "side" of the party keeps power and are quite happy to see you in jail by all possible means.  That's tragic.

It's quite ironic that in the week when many people in the UK are exercised by the issue of womens' safety and security that you suggest that Alex Salmond's court case was nothing more than a malicious plot. For the record, is that your view ?

[SandyCromarty]

10 hours ago, sophia said:

Not quite his whole life. Sometimes he got pissed and behaved inappropriately

and why would there be those predisposed to twist the knife?

Oh, could it be, at the least, something to do with his old school hair drier style of management?

@Granny Dangerhas it. Salmond would be better served and might elevate his reputation from gorgeous George gutter levels with a bit of mia culpa and perhaps he could get to a place that approaches his previous popularity amongst a section of the voting public. But let us be honest, he'll never have the appeal of Nicola.

Head and Nail comes to mind.

[SandyCromarty]

 

1 hour ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

11 hours ago, strichener said:

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing a political objective only to find that others that share those objectives feel that it is more important that their "side" of the party keeps power and are quite happy to see you in jail by all possible means.  That's tragic.

It's quite ironic that in the week when many people in the UK are exercised by the issue of womens' safety and security that you suggest that Alex Salmond's court case was nothing more than a malicious plot. For the record, is that your view ?

The Not Proven charge of sexual assault with intent to rape is still out there.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

12 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

His only role now is as a spoiler; it’s one he seems to relish.

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing the political objective of Scottish Independence and just when the polls are showing that objective of having its highest level of support you take action that you know can only harm it.  What a tragedy.

 

It seems that he's turned into Jim Sillars. 

Forever holding personal grudges and driven by ego. A willing stooge for the Unionist press. When you have that wankstain Alan Cochrane....who actually wrote a book entitled 'My part in Alex Salmond's downfall'....cheering you on, you know you're on the wrong path.

It's sad, and pathetic in equal measures. 

Edited March 16, 2021 by Bob Mahelp

[Detournement]

11 hours ago, paolo2143 said:

All the evidence including that which Alex Salmond has given shows that the FM was not involved in any conspiracy against him. There may be others who were out to twist knife but we haven't seen a  shred of evidence that she was involved.

Even the so called incriminating Whatsapp messages proved to be nothing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.stv.tv/politics/no-minutes-held-of-key-legal-meetings-in-salmond-case%3ftop&amp 

If you can hide evidence, completely reinterpret the meaning of explicit communications and simply say I don't remember to any difficult questions then it's not going to be difficult to evade a committee which is effectively controlled by your own party. 

Only people in powerful positions are awarded the level of doubt that Sturgeon, Murrell, Evans etc have been. 

 

 

 

[SandyCromarty]

19 minutes ago, Detournement said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.stv.tv/politics/no-minutes-held-of-key-legal-meetings-in-salmond-case%3ftop&amp 

If you can hide evidence, completely reinterpret the meaning of explicit communications and simply say I don't remember to any difficult questions then it's not going to be difficult to evade a committee which is effectively controlled by your own party. 

Only people in powerful positions are awarded the level of doubt that Sturgeon, Murrell, Evans etc have been. 

 

 

 

And does that level of doubt apply to a Non Proven verdict of sexual assault with intent to rape.

Sturgeon et al were never tried in a criminal court, nor will they at any time.

Bear in mind that Nicola Sturgeon answered question in front of a Parliamentary inquiry comprised of her her parliamentary peers, all that committee can do is hand over a report to the Scottish Parliament, it is not even remotely resembling a criminal court.

We have heard all these demands of Votes of no Confidence and calls for resignations and all have fallen flat, what we hear is political point scoring and wild scurrilous accusations especially from the tories assisted by Wee Willie Rennie. and it continues even as the Scottish Public have grown weary of it.

Last week's FMQ's the Blurt used all her questions rattling on about it evidence and with no substance, meanwhile Anas Sarwar asked relevant questions on NHS waiting times, and that is what is of more interest to the Scottish Public right now.

Dross yesterday spitting abuse at the SNP in a Hitleresqe type speech which probably pleased the tories, that seems to be their only MO, a hatred of the SNP.

[Detournement]

17 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said:

And does that level of doubt apply to a Non Proven verdict of sexual assault with intent to rape.

 

Yes it does. 

The only evidence for that charge was an uncorroborated allegation. If there was the kind of evidence pointing towards Salmond's guilt on that charge as there is of the cover up he would more than likely have been convicted. 

[strichener]

4 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said:

14 hours ago, strichener said:

Imagine spending your whole life pursuing a political objective only to find that others that share those objectives feel that it is more important that their "side" of the party keeps power and are quite happy to see you in jail by all possible means.  That's tragic.

It's quite ironic that in the week when many people in the UK are exercised by the issue of womens' safety and security that you suggest that Alex Salmond's court case was nothing more than a malicious plot. For the record, is that your view ?

There is nothing ironic about it unless you are suggesting that Alex Salmond committed murder.  Is that your view?

Is there any evidence at all that any of the alphabet women expressed concern, to the point of fearing to go out, as a result of the behaviour of Alex Salmond? 

You are seriously demeaning the events of the last week with your linking of these two issues.

As for the court case, no charges stuck and we haven't see the entirety of the evidence nor are we likely to for some inexplicable reason.  The government and civil service have behaved, if not illegally, then incompetently and others within the SNP worse than that.  Until the full evidence is released, I will reserve judgement but on the balance of probabilities of what is currently known and the obfuscation that has come from only one side in this then I do believe that the court case was an unintentional consequence of some unsavoury attempt to "take down Salmond".

[Gordon EF]

Salmond's turning into Galloway.

[SANTAN]

I don't know the full circumstances why this was being discussed but David Davis has been speaking now and has just went through Nicola Sturgeon very convincingly, outlining a lot of the obvious flaws and mistruth in the SG's version of events, will hopefully post a clip when he's done speaking. 

 

[SANTAN]

 

[SANTAN]

Full video if anyone is interested.

 

[SweeperDee]

1 minute ago, Stormzy said:

 

David Davis?

Okay.