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Vinyl - anyone still buy it?


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I've recently inherited my grandpas original 1974 Linn LP12. Got loads of vinyl in the loft - mostly 12" 45's though but the Linn only plays 33. Think I need an adapter of some sort to play them

Well done! Mine is the same and I had to buy a small adaptor which fits over the belt drive spindle thing (can't post a picture cos i'm hopeless)

Has it had any of the updates done since new? One of the later ones was to the power supply and motor which made the speed change a push button instead of removing the platter and drive belt.

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Nope 100% original, nothing touched. Was in touch with Ivor (Linn) last year as my grandpa knew Ivors dad and apparently this was a gift from him. Bloody thing sat in his living room all this time too, I wish I'd asked more about it

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  • 5 weeks later...

I got 1/2 a dozen (6) northern soul singles (2 of them coloured vinyl) on the Casino Classics label, for the princely sum of £3.

Can't wait to finally get back in to our house & get myself an 1/2 decent set up to blast them out on.

Grimbo.

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The resurgence in vinyl is nothing more than record companies cashing in on a niche market. The small vinyl section in hmv is reminiscent of the small cd sections in record shops when CDs started becoming popular in the early eighties. And the prices for vinyl are ridiculous. Twenty pounds for an album that's forty years old ? It's much nicer to look at and hold but a quality CD player will sound better and won't have background cracks and pops

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A quality cd player will sound clearer but not better. Cds lose sound at the top and bottom ends as part of the conversion to digital. Vinyl sounds richer because its not subject to the same cropping of the sound that digital is.

It is more expensive. A cd by a non tesco mundane chart band will cost around £12. The vinyl version of the album will be around £20. Is it worth the extra £8? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

As for HMV, its not a proper music retailer. It makes as much, maybe even more, from game and dvd sales as from music so the choice of music stock is garbage. Fopp is better for not having games for sale (I know its owned by hmv) but Glasgow has the rather excellent Monorail and Love Music, Ayr has Big Sparra and Edinburgh has Coda. Throw in Oxfam Music and the regular record fairs in the central belt and its easy to get decent vinyl at reasonable prices and to support small independent stores that will offer great service.

Id argue that CDs are more in danger of becoming the niche product these days. Downloading has devalued the market for chart-friendly music. Its not too unlikely that in the next few years the music market will change, with vinyl andpremium CDs making up most of the physical format sales and downloading/streaming rendering the pop cd market limited.

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The resurgence in vinyl is nothing more than record companies cashing in on a niche market. The small vinyl section in hmv is reminiscent of the small cd sections in record shops when CDs started becoming popular in the early eighties. And the prices for vinyl are ridiculous. Twenty pounds for an album that's forty years old ? It's much nicer to look at and hold but a quality CD player will sound better and won't have background cracks and pops

I agree with you on the pricing structure but hasn't that always been the way with any product that is seen or even manipulated to be scarce,

Where we disagree is the quality. I'd actually argue it's also the interaction too.

The CD is clinical & touch of a button you can listen to any track on it.

Vinyl, you are engaging with it, the touching the smell, then the careful placing of the LP on the deck, choosing the rpm, the sound of the motor as the turntable starts to rotate when you lift the needle arm from its dock. The crackle from the speakers as the needle lands to find its 1st groove with the intense expectation of the boom of the music about to explode through the speakers any second, If it's the 1st time of listening to a new LP there's the magic of listening to the unknown tracks, then there's the run out grooves & click as the needle lifts off to return to its resting place & up you get to repeat the whole experience of side 2.

In fact the more I think about it the better it gets. I can recall the excitement of getting a new LP in the record shop, the rush to get it home, the anticipation of the discovery of the latest works from my favourite artists, then the unwrapping at home & the act of playing it out. I mind when the Sex Pistols brought out Nevermind the Bollocks, my 1st play was like that, sat alone in my bedroom playing with my Bollocks. Then dashing up to my best mates house & showing him my big bright brash shiny Bokkocks & we went in his front room to play my Bollocks together, not much gets better than that.

It's a habit that sticks.

Grimbo

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I agree with you on the pricing structure but hasn't that always been the way with any product that is seen or even manipulated to be scarce,

Where we disagree is the quality. I'd actually argue it's also the interaction too.

The CD is clinical & touch of a button you can listen to any track on it.

Vinyl, you are engaging with it, the touching the smell, then the careful placing of the LP on the deck, choosing the rpm, the sound of the motor as the turntable starts to rotate when you lift the needle arm from its dock. The crackle from the speakers as the needle lands to find its 1st groove with the intense expectation of the boom of the music about to explode through the speakers any second, If it's the 1st time of listening to a new LP there's the magic of listening to the unknown tracks, then there's the run out grooves & click as the needle lifts off to return to its resting place & up you get to repeat the whole experience of side 2.

In fact the more I think about it the better it gets. I can recall the excitement of getting a new LP in the record shop, the rush to get it home, the anticipation of the discovery of the latest works from my favourite artists, then the unwrapping at home & the act of playing it out. I mind when the Sex Pistols brought out Nevermind the Bollocks, my 1st play was like that, sat alone in my bedroom playing with my Bollocks. Then dashing up to my best mates house & showing him my big bright brash shiny Bokkocks & we went in his front room to play my Bollocks together, not much gets better than that.

It's a habit that sticks.

Grimbo

I agree with everything you say about the experience of listening to vinyl. It is far better. But for actual reproduction of sound as it should be CD has been scientifically proven to be be better

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A quality cd player will sound clearer but not better. Cds lose sound at the top and bottom ends as part of the conversion to digital. Vinyl sounds richer because its not subject to the same cropping of the sound that digital is.

It is more expensive. A cd by a non tesco mundane chart band will cost around £12. The vinyl version of the album will be around £20. Is it worth the extra £8? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

As for HMV, its not a proper music retailer. It makes as much, maybe even more, from game and dvd sales as from music so the choice of music stock is garbage. Fopp is better for not having games for sale (I know its owned by hmv) but Glasgow has the rather excellent Monorail and Love Music, Ayr has Big Sparra and Edinburgh has Coda. Throw in Oxfam Music and the regular record fairs in the central belt and its easy to get decent vinyl at reasonable prices and to support small independent stores that will offer great service.

Id argue that CDs are more in danger of becoming the niche product these days. Downloading has devalued the market for chart-friendly music. Its not too unlikely that in the next few years the music market will change, with vinyl andpremium CDs making up most of the physical format sales and downloading/streaming rendering the pop cd market limited.

Agree that Fopp and other Glasgow shops you mention are far better than hmv although fopp used to be better. ( still go there every Friday mind you) There is always a risk in buying second hand vinyl tho

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Bought my gf a Free LP for a gift once.

Got it home and played it, must have been very well played in the past as when you play it you can hear the reverse side playing at the same time, backwards. Makes for a pretty far out listen :)

But is it alright now?

Grimbo

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