NotThePars Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Jmo's increasing shift into becoming the Robbie Travers of P&B is superb to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I'm not there. Watching the coverage but had to turn off. Finding it increasingly depressing. Ken Loach, an antisemitic man who has spent my adult life opposed to Labour, running against us, criticising us, has just received a standing ovation at the Labour conference. The party are ignoring the single issue which will hurt working people more than anything else at the moment but can dedicate half of the international debate to Palestine and Israel. Someone got cheers and applause from the majority of the audience for sweeping antisemitism under the carpet. I'm just a bit dismayed. Wait...... what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Jmo's increasing shift into becoming the Robbie Travers of P&B is superb to watch. He's been fun to watch today. Getting called out for his lies by the national media and unable to handle it is quite amusing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 He's been fun to watch today. Getting called out for his lies by the national media and unable to handle it is quite amusing. Please link me to these if you can. I've only been intermittently catching his Facebook posts which are more in denial than Chemical Ali. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Please link me to these if you can. I've only been intermittently catching his Facebook posts which are more in denial than Chemical Ali. Nick Cohen article:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/smear-student-robbie-travers-racial-politicsTravers responded by saying he was wrong about the job Cohen claimed he lied about. So his old boss posted this reply: Interesting that Travers doesn't seem to be denying that the ISIS thing was totally made up, but still has as his pinned tweet a comment saying he was under investigation for joking about ISIS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Please link me to these if you can. I've only been intermittently catching his Facebook posts which are more in denial than Chemical Ali. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/smear-student-robbie-travers-racial-politicsWith this lovely piece towards the end: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Amazing. Cheers, lads. My mate wrote a joke tweet about writing erotic fan fiction about Robbie Travers and Robbie claimed he'd been sent some and posted "excerpts" he'd blatantly written himself. I'll go have a look for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Screenshotted for those without Twitter: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Amazing. Cheers, lads. My mate wrote a joke tweet about writing erotic fan fiction about Robbie Travers and Robbie claimed he'd been sent some and posted "excerpts" he'd blatantly written himself. I'll go have a look for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pandarilla Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Wait...... what? I missed that! Jmo are you backing this up with anything? Ken loach is an absolute icon in this country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I missed that! Jmo are you backing this up with anything? Ken loach is an absolute icon in this country. He's consistently tried to apologise for antisemites, advocated for Israelis to be banned from attending events and promoted myths about zionist control over the arts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: He's consistently tried to apologise for antisemites, advocated for Israelis to be banned from attending events and promoted myths about zionist control over the arts. Evidence please. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Evidence please. http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/ken-loachs-defence-of-livingstone-splits-opinion/http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/radiohead-israel-palestine-boycott-bds-thom-yorke-ken-loach-meet-discuss-it-a7835291.htmlhttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/25/ken-loach-calls-for-cultural-boycott-of-israelhttp://m.jpost.com/International/British-film-director-Rise-in-anti-Semitism-understandable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/ken-loachs-defence-of-livingstone-splits-opinion/ http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/radiohead-israel-palestine-boycott-bds-thom-yorke-ken-loach-meet-discuss-it-a7835291.html https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/25/ken-loach-calls-for-cultural-boycott-of-israel http://m.jpost.com/International/British-film-director-Rise-in-anti-Semitism-understandable So we're back with the usual "anti-Israeli government = anti-semitism" debate. What a joy. Do you also think the numerous left wing Jewish groups (both in Israel and around the world) are anti-Semitic? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 So we're back with the usual "anti-Israeli government = anti-semitism" debate. What a joy. Do you also think the numerous left wing Jewish groups (both in Israel and around the world) are anti-Semitic? No, I don't think criticising the Israeli government is antisemitic, nor even criticising Israel as a state however I do think calling for a boycott of the country, comparing it to Apartheid and people from the country at film festivals, whilst defending an antisemite (and repeating his argument) and saying antisemitism is 'understandable' as a whole does make him antisemitic. There are plenty of critics of Israel who aren't antisemites, but it's clear a lot of the criticisms of Israel are antisemitic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jmothecat2 said: http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/ken-loachs-defence-of-livingstone-splits-opinion/http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/radiohead-israel-palestine-boycott-bds-thom-yorke-ken-loach-meet-discuss-it-a7835291.htmlhttps://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/25/ken-loach-calls-for-cultural-boycott-of-israelhttp://m.jpost.com/International/British-film-director-Rise-in-anti-Semitism-understandable Concur with pandarilla above that anti-Zionism & Anti-Semitism are different. I'd also question the neutrality of the last reference which comes from The Jerusalem Post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Speaking of the topic of racism there's a lot of racists on Twitter getting angry at the Labour Party having a picture of a mosque on their conference backdrop.Shocking! Apart from a) what's wrong with a Mosque, and b) it's actually the Brighton Pavilion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: No, I don't think criticising the Israeli government is antisemitic, nor even criticising Israel as a state however I do think calling for a boycott of the country, comparing it to Apartheid and people from the country at film festivals, whilst defending an antisemite (and repeating his argument) and saying antisemitism is 'understandable' as a whole does make him antisemitic. There are plenty of critics of Israel who aren't antisemites, but it's clear a lot of the criticisms of Israel are antisemitic. Apartheid is a fair description of Palestinian rights v Settler rights in the West Bank, I would say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibbermoresaint Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I do think calling for a boycott of the country, comparing it to Apartheid and people from the country at film festivals, whilst defending an antisemite (and repeating his argument) and saying antisemitism is 'understandable' as a whole does make him antisemitic. You clearly don't understand what anti-Semitism is, which is no real surprise. Come back when you've educated yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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