GTG_03 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 https://t.co/jLu8lipS5L That's the union dividend mate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I might have guessed, cos oooh you are awful, well your patter anyway. I think i got it wrong again dad ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 https://t.co/jLu8lipS5L Non Dodd/Cooper forum for this pish.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Glad we’ve our best men on the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Loondave1 said: Cooper died on live TV with the audience laughing at his hilarious "collapsing on stage" routine.Think it was the death rattle before anyone sussed it. Remember watching it live on telly. They dropped the curtain and you could still see his legs twitching before they cut the signal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Remember watching it live on telly. They dropped the curtain and you could still see his legs twitching before they cut the signal. TV gold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Glad we’ve our best men on the case. He's right. They should shut up until they give us £30,000 to dine with some Tory MPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest of Dean Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, RiG said: He's right. They should shut up until they give us £30,000 to dine with some Tory MPs. I'm not sure "Putin's Crony" is really correct any more. "Former Putin crony" would probably make more sense with Chernukhin. He's currently being sued by Deripaska who is very close to Putin (less so than Leviev or Abramovich), although their relationship has been strained at times, and is being helped in the lawsuit by former head of MI6. Edited March 15, 2018 by Forest of Dean 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-winter-crisis-deaths-patients-flu-cancelled-operations-bmj-oxford-a8256401.html Government told to 'urgently investigate 10,000 additional deaths' in the first weeks of 2018 'Case for an investigation gets both stronger and more urgent with each passing day' Sturgeon must....oh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Glad we’ve our best men on the case. He also ran home to tell his mum that Putin is a big fat smelly poopy pants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 "Sack Russia for being unloyal, disloyal. And for joining in fun in a way that excludes the United Kingdom." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/15/uks-claims-questioned-doubts-emerge-about-source-of-salisburys-novichok https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/ So... mebbe not actually the work of 'the Russian state' then. What has struck me about the week's frothing is the way in which the British Government and its assorted fluffers have insisted on the 'Russian' development line. But any chemical weapons program was began and operated in the Soviet Union: a much larger, multinational state. They've bizarrely drawn a straight line between their anachronistic view of 'Russia' in the 1970s with Russia today - but as anyone with any knowledge of the breakup of the USSR or the 'Wild East' of the 1990s would know, even Soviet defence infrastructure was open to corruption, smuggling and didn't all remain under the Russian Federation's nominal control. Even the fucking Ukraine emerged with a huge military arsenal from the break-up. 'Russian provenance' is nowhere near as solid a claim as has been widely assumed so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I assume they're basing their conclusions on more than just the chemical itself, being as the guy who invented it published details of it in a Moscow newspaper before he defected to America. Even Wiki provide a pretty detailed description of it. I can't think of why anyone else but the Russians would carry it out though, maybe even by someone acting on his own who thought it would please Putin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 That's an 'assumption' that doesn't account for the UK government's own credibility gap. Who exactly is making such claims at the moment? Boris Johnson and Gavin Williamson? Aye no bother - let's just assume that they know what they're talking about for the first time in their entire, blowhard ministerial careers and demolish remaining ties with a major power as a result. Samples should have been given to the OPCW prior to any response being taken by the UK, which would lend the necessary international consensus to support the UK Government's right to respond against the Russian state. But May is too weak to resist a slaughtering in the press, so we have a flurry of 'ultimatums' and back of a fag packet declarations of support by NATO allies instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Porton down have said they can't confirm the origin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Even Craig Murray accepts that Moscow was responsible for the plutonium murder. The same people are still in charge of the Russian State. I don't see why he's so convinced of their innocence this time around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Even Craig Murray accepts that Moscow was responsible for the plutonium murder. The same people are still in charge of the Russian State. I don't see why he's so convinced of their innocence this time around. Suppose that's right, every case is identical after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Someone’s has had to do this. If it wasn’t Russia who else was it? Edited March 16, 2018 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Someone’s has had to do this. If it wasn’t Russia who else was it? Well there is one country, that has an extensive history of chemical weapons use, has that nerve agent and keeps it seven miles away. A detective might start there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Peppino Impastato said: Well there is one country, that has an extensive history of chemical weapons use, has that nerve agent and keeps it seven miles away. A detective might start there. Is this your theory that MI6 did it to provoke a war with Russia? And the reason they chose a target close by Porton Down was to save on petrol? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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