General Politics Thread

[tamthebam]

Would this be the same GMB Scotland that campaigned for No before consulting it's members on the question?

 

[Detournement]

8 hours ago, tamthebam said:

Would this be the same GMB Scotland that campaigned for No before consulting it's members on the question?

 

What's that got to do with the cleansing workers voting to reject the pay offer and voting to go on strike?

Nat Brain is a tragic condition. 

 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

9 minutes ago, Detournement said:

What's that got to do with the cleansing workers voting to reject the pay offer and voting to go on strike?

Nat Brain is a tragic condition. 

 

So is desperate attention-seeking paranoia tbf. 

[williemillersmoustache]

10 hours ago, tamthebam said:

Would this be the same GMB Scotland that campaigned for No before consulting it's members on the question?

The one that supports weapons of mass destruction on the clyde, negotiated the pay deal that discriminated against women and stayed silent until Labour were finally turfed out of the GCC then suddenly decided to take action, donated 10's of thousands to Better Together, hates nationalism and the waving of flags (except for this one).

If the GMB wanted to remove the political element from these discussions on workers rights, pay and conditions they could always stop giving money to the British Labour and Unionist party or doing photoshoots with has-been English Labour MPs.

Edited November 9, 2021 by williemillersmoustache

[Antlion]

28 minutes ago, Detournement said:

 

Nat Brain is a tragic condition. 

 

As a Europhobic Brexiteer and UK nationalist, you’re hardly in a position to judge on that score. 

[Detournement]

17 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

The one that supports weapons of mass destruction on the clyde, negotiated the pay deal that discriminated against women and stayed silent until Labour were finally turfed out of the GCC then suddenly decided to take action, donated 10's of thousands to Better Together, hates nationalism and the waving of flags (except for this one).

If the GMB wanted to remove the political element from theses discussions on workers rights, pay and conditions they could always stop giving money to the British Labour and Unionist party or doing photoshoots with has-been English Labour MPs.

Again what has that got to do with the cleansing workers?

Edited November 9, 2021 by Detournement

[strichener]

1 hour ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Stayed silent until Labour were finally turfed out of the GCC then suddenly decided to take action,.

This is just not true.  You are rewriting history with this narrative.  The Glasgow City Council v Unison Claimants was ruled on in May 2017 after the ET first ejected the claim in 2013.

[williemillersmoustache]

12 minutes ago, strichener said:

This is just not true.  You are rewriting history with this narrative.  The Glasgow City Council v Unison Claimants was ruled on in May 2017 after the ET first ejected the claim in 2013.

What Unison and the GMB are the same?? Huge, if true. Sit the f**k down if not. 

[strichener]

3 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

What Unison and the GMB are the same?? Huge, if true. Sit the f**k down if not. 

Dear oh dear "sit the f**k down". 

Probably best that you know what you are talking about before making statements like that. 

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APPEAL BY GLASGOW CITY COUNCIL AGAINST (FIRST) UNISON CLAIMANTS; (SECOND) HBJ CLAIMANTS (FORMERLY "FOX CROSS"); AND (THIRD) GMB CLAIMANTS

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The Glasgow City Council v Unison case was backed by the GMB union and solicitors HBJ.

 

GMB Scotland Organiser Hazel Nolan said: “This was an opportunity for the council to do the right thing by thousands of low-paid women with equal pay claims against their employer and GMB warmly welcomes this unanimous decision.

 

So just to repeat my point on your original post - you don't half speak shite.

 

[williemillersmoustache]

38 minutes ago, strichener said:

Dear oh dear "sit the f**k down". 

Probably best that you know what you are talking about before making statements like that. 

So just to repeat my point on your original post - you don't half speak shite.

 

Is this where you do a good job of refuting an argument I haven't made then slap yourself on the back for refuting it. How familiar. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

It's naivety to think there aren't political motivations behind some union action.

Funnily enough the GMB also rejected the nurses pay offer in the run up to the Scottish elections.

The GMB's National Officer Public Services Section is Karen Leonard, wife of the ex-SLab leader. Maybe just a coincidence but I was involved in Labour politics long enough to know that is unlikely to be the case.

[trainspotter]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59223258

'Step in' and do what, exactly. Perhaps YCCC should just claim that the report has been taken out of context.

[coprolite]

4 minutes ago, trainspotter said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59223258

'Step in' and do what, exactly. Perhaps YCCC should just claim that the report has been taken out of context.

They've heard thst some racists have lost their jobs so Boris is going to 'step in' as an interim racist until they find permanent replacement racists. 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Is this where you do a good job of refuting an argument I haven't made then slap yourself on the back for refuting it. How familiar. 

The poundshop Ad Lib strikes again [emoji23]

[strichener]

6 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Is this where you do a good job of refuting an argument I haven't made then slap yourself on the back for refuting it. How familiar. 

Nobody claimed that you made an argument, just that you posted shite - 

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stayed silent until Labour were finally turfed out of the GCC then suddenly decided to take action

 

4 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:

The poundshop Ad Lib strikes again

Here comes the calvary.  

[lichtgilphead]

8 minutes ago, strichener said:

Here comes the calvary.  

I'm not understanding the relevance of your reference?

[Detournement]

3 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

It's naivety to think there aren't political motivations behind some union action.

Funnily enough the GMB also rejected the nurses pay offer in the run up to the Scottish elections.

The GMB's National Officer Public Services Section is Karen Leonard, wife of the ex-SLab leader. Maybe just a coincidence but I was involved in Labour politics long enough to know that is unlikely to be the case.
 

The workers voted to reject it and voted to strike ffs. It's not legally easy to go on strike or done lightly. 

I'm a GMB member and they are shite politically but that has nothing to do with this dispute. If anyone sees low paid workers voting for strike action and their first reaction is to moan about something that happened during the referendum 7 fucking years ago then they are a prize twat.

[NotThePars]

It's naivety to think there aren't political motivations behind some union action.

Funnily enough the GMB also rejected the nurses pay offer in the run up to the Scottish elections.

The GMB's National Officer Public Services Section is Karen Leonard, wife of the ex-SLab leader. Maybe just a coincidence but I was involved in Labour politics long enough to know that is unlikely to be the case.

The workers voted to reject it and voted to strike ffs. It's not legally easy to go on strike or done lightly. 
I'm a GMB member and they are shite politically but that has nothing to do with this dispute. If anyone sees low paid workers voting for strike action and their first reaction is to moan about something that happened during the referendum 7 fucking years ago then they are a prize twat.

Karen Leonard clearly a Bene Gesserit using the Voice on the dumb proles

[G51]

It's incredible the number of SNP members/voters who, as soon as striking shows up any kind of SNP administration, reveal themselves to be complete and utter scabs.

Edited November 9, 2021 by G51

[tamthebam]

Just as the usually vocal COSLA who demanded more funding for local authorities preceding 1997 were then fairly quiet during the time Labour were in power in Scotland despite not getting the funding they had previously demanded.