tamthebam Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, BFTD said: Been expecting eugenics to make a big comeback for a while now. Unlikely, Annie Lennox and Dave Stewart are each doing well on their own. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 At least back in the 20th century the Cold Warriors were scared of communists from the big bad Soviets whereas now everyone's scared of effeminate Marxist academics who are corrupting your children. Lame as f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, NotThePars said: At least back in the 20th century the Cold Warriors were scared of communists from the big bad Soviets whereas now everyone's scared of effeminate Marxist academics who are corrupting your children. Lame as f**k. You see, this kind of cavalier attitude is exactly why GB News proposed hiding cameras in schools to secretly record the true danger those effeminate Marxist academics are exposing our kids to. #ivedonetheresearch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Must have been a very heavy cone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, 101 said: Must have been a very heavy cone. Maybe had a "cone to heid" production line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 16 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said: do people use it that much? the impression is given theres some sort of culture war going on but it deosnt seem like that to me in the "real" world opposed to some internet, social media shite thats even then is hardly anyone I don't know anyone in the real world who has conversations about "woke", "virtue signalling", "Gammons" etc etc but in the world of social media and even our mainstream media it seems that our middle classes are holding these proxy battles using the rest of "normal" society. Personally I believe that so called "celebrities", "pressure groups" and other groups of rich influential people have far too much coverage and far too much say in how Governments and Business are being run and that's what happens when you have populists in power I'm afraid. The other major problem is that nobody is willing to listen to a contrarian view nor are they willing to debate or compromise, it's all me, me me, I'm right and you're wrong sort of stuff and in today's world that tends to manifest itself as mob rule and witch hunts unfortunately. The really sad part is that lots of the trivial stuff totally detracts and deflects attention from the really serious matters which require action, however maybe that's been the plan all along....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Its a good diversion tactic by the right as in a way its got the online left fighting their battles for them, you can just imagine some right wing think tank thinking it up im not sure if im correct but a few of the online left I know couldnt be more capitalist and consumer driven in every other aspect of their life, though that may be just my small window on things and thats not widespread but it does for me make it feel quite empty sloganeering at times with little real substance that could actually drive real change The online right appear just to be enraged about everything Edited October 5, 2021 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: Its a good diversion tactic by the right as in a way its got the online left fighting their battles for them, you can just imagine some right wing think tank thinking it up im not sure if im correct but a few of the online left I know couldnt be more capitalist and consumer driven in every other aspect of their life, though that may be just my small window on things and thats not widespread but it does for me make it feel quite empty sloganeering at times with little real substance that could actually drive real change Starmer has made it abundantly clear that in order to win they need to behave as a centre right party (similar to New Labour under Blair) and that "winning" is far more important than sticking to your core principles and ideology, hence the reason Labour are now a busted flush with no real direction or anything which sets them apart from the Tories. Love them or loathe them, at least Corbyn and McDonnell knew exactly what their Labour party stood for, irrespective of how the majority of the electorate appeared to feel and at least under them the party had a reason for being, unlike now. The really worrying thing is that all parties seem to be following the same populist agendas which makes it a complete farce and also has many people totally disillusioned, myself included. I really don't know what the answer is but something will need to change, that's for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 hours ago, Snifter Pee Rot said: Good doc on Blair and Brown on BBC4. Seems a long time ago that the Labour party had political heavyweights in their ranks that could win elections. Ultimately they were on the wrong side of history but did some good. Saw that too. Maybe lookimg back through history they are heavyweights, but maybe at the time less so, bit what you did see was that you could probably name 90% of the labour guys. I'm guessing most folk would struggle to name many of the opposition now not much of the government over the last 10 years prior to this clusterfuck. Seems like they had an ideology and went for it and were able to take advantage of a sitting government in chaos. Labour just can't seem to do that currently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 hours ago, 101 said: Must have been a very heavy cone. Serves him right for sitting still on a horse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, Theyellowbox said: Saw that too. Maybe lookimg back through history they are heavyweights, but maybe at the time less so, bit what you did see was that you could probably name 90% of the labour guys. I'm guessing most folk would struggle to name many of the opposition now not much of the government over the last 10 years prior to this clusterfuck. Seems like they had an ideology and went for it and were able to take advantage of a sitting government in chaos. Labour just can't seem to do that currently. I watched that too and there are parallels between then and now in terms of New Labour. Then, as now, there was a manifestly right wing tory party driven by ideology rather than centrist pragmatism. Presenting an alternative which was also based on ideology but this time manifestly left wing didn't cut it. I think we saw something similar under Corbyn - spurred on by the media (as in 1983). Setting aside foreign policy issues, Blair represented "don't rock the boat" capitalism with a bit more focus on socially just policies. That fitted middle England like a glove against a tired Tory govt. I think Starmer sees that approach as most likely to produce a result this time round. His challenge is that he's nowhere near as competent as Blair was in getting messages across. Oh, and Scotland's lost to Labour for as far into the future as I can see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 14 hours ago, NotThePars said: At least back in the 20th century the Cold Warriors were scared of communists from the big bad Soviets whereas now everyone's scared of effeminate Marxist academics who are corrupting your children. Lame as f**k. I believe the authorities are keeping a close watch on these subversive Marxists.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, tamthebam said: I believe the authorities are keeping a close watch on these subversive Marxists.. God, I must be getting old - police officers look so young these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 This poor gent has done more to hold the Tories to account in 5 minutes than Sir Keith has done during the entirety of his leadership. Truly horrible seeing both the guys obvious despair and that rat c**t Rees-Mogg’s attempts to essentially dismiss him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 20:49, J_Stewart said: The number of columnists on this hell island who went full anti-Corbyn and subsequently had their faces eaten by leopards must be in the thousands. I saved these from Twitter this morning. Neither of these two creeps will regret anything they published but they were definitely rattled. That's why Sir Kieth has his standing orders to destroy the Labour movement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Detournement said: I saved these from Twitter this morning. Neither of these two creeps will regret anything they published but they were definitely rattled. That's why Sir Kieth has his standing orders to destroy the Labour movement. I know "Free Press" blah, blah, blah, but it never stops being astonishing that column's like those can be printed in what fashion themselves to be serious newspapers. I'm convinced that if Labour had been 5 points further forward in the polls we'd have had "Jeremy Corbyn ate my Jewish hamster" stories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 34 minutes ago, Detournement said: I saved these from Twitter this morning. Neither of these two creeps will regret anything they published but they were definitely rattled. That's why Sir Kieth has his standing orders to destroy the Labour movement. Says tie wearing unelected member of the House of Lords Baron Moore of Etchingham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: I know "Free Press" blah, blah, blah, but it never stops being astonishing that column's like those can be printed in what fashion themselves to be serious newspapers. I'm convinced that if Labour had been 5 points further forward in the polls we'd have had "Jeremy Corbyn ate my Jewish hamster" stories. He would have got RFK style taken out if he realistically looked like becoming PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: I know "Free Press" blah, blah, blah, but it never stops being astonishing that column's like those can be printed in what fashion themselves to be serious newspapers. I'm convinced that if Labour had been 5 points further forward in the polls we'd have had "Jeremy Corbyn ate my Jewish hamster" stories. Our press is the VIP in the manufactured democracy Britain is. As closed to serious opposition as it's possible to be in a liberal democracy. Ash Sarkar and George Monbiot are like the most extreme left viewpoints that are tolerated and the former spends every day getting racist abuse piped directly into all their social media feeds. 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: He would have got RFK style taken out if he realistically looked like becoming PM. He would've been allowed to govern in name only while every part of the establishment and his own party either downed tools or worked against them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Detournement said: I saved these from Twitter this morning. Neither of these two creeps will regret anything they published but they were definitely rattled. That's why Sir Kieth has his standing orders to destroy the Labour movement. Have either of these two launched a scathing attack on Boris Johnson for his inability to properly comb his hair. A total embarrassment on the world stage and hopelessly unpatriotic. Maybe not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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