Ad Lib Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 He's typical luvvy Thistle fan - doesn't actually go to games. Seven consecutive season ticket subs suggest otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I have watched football in Dundee for over 50 years and have, thankfully, never witnessed sectarianism from supporters of either Dundee club. The idea that there is a Protestant/catholic divide is preposterous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I have watched football in Dundee for over 50 years and have, thankfully, never witnessed sectarianism from supporters of either Dundee club. The idea that there is a Protestant/catholic divide is preposterous. This ^^. Members of the same family will follow both teams - my Grandad and uncle's were/are all United fans - my Dad was the Dundee fan in the family. My Grandad (RIP) used to watch both teams every other week during the 50s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortar Bored Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 If I can wade into the incest discussion for a second: People don't have to have an ideologically rigid vision of the world. You can believe that consenting adults should generally be allowed to do as they want. You can also believe that certain actions are so repugnant to our society that they should be banned. This is the way most people look at the world. They don't view every single issue through a consistent liberal/libertarian/socialist/racist/fascist/whatever prism in order to decide what they believe. There's nothing wrong with this. It is normal. The weird people are the ones who can't get past the logic, "We believe that consenting adults should be allowed to do as they please so go ahead and f**k your sister. It's your life. More power to you." The end result of this extreme logic is that 50 year old Canadian man who left his family to be adopted by another family and live as a transgender 6 year old girl. Not sure if serious? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Someone wasn't on the First Division forums circa 6-7 years ago. Don't be a bore. I wasn't looking at the First Division forum at that time either. I do know the geography of Dens Park though. You obviously don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 clubs which ive heard personally fans from singing sectarian songs, Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs (although im not sure if this is just to bait old firm?) Airdrie and Motherwell.How far are you going back when you personally heard Motherwell fans singing sectarian songs?Its been a long time since I heard any. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Are people claiming this law is working watching the Cup Final? 25,000 fans belting out "sad f*nian b*stard" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 You're the one advocating that we remove the current provisions and revert to the 'good old days' of erm, sectarianism loud and proud at every single large match. So needless to say that your Helen Lovejoy impersonation isn't going to cut it - particularly when Murdo Fraser, Tomkins etc. largest party backing the repeal campaign will be lapping up every minute of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Pretty sure Tomkins hated the last 180 seconds tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Tomkins must be hating that too Proof that football alone can refuse to reward sectarianism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 You're the one advocating that we remove the current provisions and revert to the 'good old days' of erm, sectarianism loud and proud at every single large match. So needless to say that your Helen Lovejoy impersonation isn't going to cut it - particularly when Murdo Fraser, Tomkins etc. largest party backing the repeal campaign will be lapping up every minute of it. Until you answer any of the previous points put to you, I think we can safely treat your views as an irrelevance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 I look forward to seeing OBAFATCSA successfully prosecute every single Rangers fan that didn't commit any other public order offence but sang the Billy Boys today. Oh wait. That's not even remotely going to happen. That's a bad law. Right there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Seems as though an endless supply of journalists were offended at the pitch invasion as well. Arrest warrants being issued in bulk on Monday morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 I have watched football in Dundee for over 50 years and have, thankfully, never witnessed sectarianism from supporters of either Dundee club. The idea that there is a Protestant/catholic divide is preposterous. Talk about false conscienceness. My 50 year knowledge of both clubs is that both sides attracts a Rangersy element and Dens Park was pretty open about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Are people claiming this law is working watching the Cup Final? 25,000 fans belting out "sad f*nian b*stard" Banter doesn't count. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Are people claiming this law is working watching the Cup Final? 25,000 fans belting out "sad f*nian b*stard" I thought Ad Lib's position on this was that it was all perfectly fine. Seeing him defend the likes of Adam Tomkins, who is himself becoming a DUP-style lunatic is of no surprise at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Talk about false conscienceness. My 50 year knowledge of both clubs is that both sides attracts a Rangersy element and Dens Park was pretty open about it. You accuse me of 'false conscienceness', I accuse you of talking shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Until you answer any of the previous points put to you, I think we can safely treat your views as an irrelevance. Yeah, safe to say that this didn't actually happen champ; back in your box. Edited May 22, 2016 by vikingTON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I thought Ad Lib's position on this was that it was all perfectly fine. Seeing him defend the likes of Adam Tomkins, who is himself becoming a DUP-style lunatic is of no surprise at all. If you thought this you're a moron. I have not "defended" Adam Tomkins. Nae points, p***k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Rangers second statement is pure tear-stained conspiracy stuff. All it needs is WATP GSTQ and FTP at the end of it. It's unbelievable. Edited May 22, 2016 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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