YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I don't particularly rate Donnelly tbh but even then his exclusion feels bizarre given he's clearly exactly what we're missing in midfield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, well fan for life said: I don't think the Donnelly chat is a huge amount of Luke Watt Syndrome because he is a good football player at this level. Not that I think he's the second coming of Xavi Hernández or that but somebody that's willing to put themselves about & pick a pass would be nice alongside Slattery. Grimshaw works like a dog but isn't a good football player, Goss is absolutely hopeless at everything and O'Hara's a footballing enigma. I agree. With Donnelly you at least have a body of work to reference. I know there's a certain scepticism towards him because of his first season with us and the whole "he's not a natural midfielder, he's a defender who wants to play in midfield" angle but as I say, as recently as September he was called back up to the international squad...as a midfielder. I think the point I was getting at was specifically that I'm not necessarily thinking of Donnelly as a "fix" to the midfield it's more that he's conspicuous by his absence given his 19/20 season and the fact that he was featuring earlier in the season. It'd be tough to imagine us Lawless-ing a NI international. He pops up in the 2nd slide of the IG post on October 21st before the United game. So that's something I guess... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 At this rate I'm expecting Alexander to watch a YouTube tutorial on website development purely to make a squad status page. Donnelly: Knee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillips455 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just seen the Scotland squad announcement. O'Donnell is in yest Watt And Kelly aren't? Clarke really doesn't care about the performances that O'Donnell has been putting in has he? He might as well join Clarke right now since he won't be part of the Qberdeen game on Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallus Numpty Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Phillips455 said: Just seen the Scotland squad announcement. O'Donnell is in yest Watt And Kelly aren't? Clarke really doesn't care about the performances that O'Donnell has been putting in has he? He might as well join Clarke right now since he won't be part of the Qberdeen game on Saturday. I certainly wouldn't have been overly surprised if he'd been left out, but O'Donnell does play a bit of a different role in the Scotland team. Whereas a keeper is basically either on form or he isn't (plus a little bit of what your relationship is like with your defenders), and Kelly has certainly had a rough couple of games recently by his standards. Edited November 2, 2021 by Gallus Numpty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Phillips455 said: Just seen the Scotland squad announcement. O'Donnell is in yest Watt And Kelly aren't? Clarke really doesn't care about the performances that O'Donnell has been putting in has he? He might as well join Clarke right now since he won't be part of the Aberdeen game on Saturday. It's not a massive surprise to see Kelly drop out, whatever way you slice it being the goalkeeper of a team who have conceded 6 at the weekend and 14 in the past 5 games is a tough beat that isn't going to get you many call ups. 3rd choice goalkeeper isn't a role I imagine Clarke is going to spend hours agonising over who to pick either. Maybe everyone involved can go and sit in a corner and think about what they've done. I think it's clear that SOD is Clarke's absolute boy and fair enough he trusts him implicitly so it'd have been more of a surprise if he hadn't been in there. Whether his form justifies him being there is a different question. Edited November 2, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Other than his late double save to earn a point against St Mirren, I’ve not been overly impressed with Kelly in the last couple of weeks so not surprised to see him left out the national team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 At least the club employees aren't making a tit of themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 FWIW I would bet if SOD plays for Scotland he'll be fine. Our tactics hang our fullbacks out to dry, which is compounding their lack of form. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, well fan for life said: FWIW I would bet if SOD plays for Scotland he'll be fine. Our tactics hang our fullbacks out to dry, which is compounding their lack of form. Tbh, while I don't disagree, finding out we've only won 1 of 9 league games with SOD starting but won 3 of 3 with Bevis at RB sent me for a walk. Edited November 2, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I do agree SOD can look fine. Sometimes. I think he's rubbish though. Patterson will play the games anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: At least the club employees aren't making a tit of themselves. Very very high xC (expected cancellings) this afternoon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I would ask who - but past history is probably a guide... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For Your Pies Only Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Of the three 'Well players who were in with a shout of a call up (Watt, SOD & Kelly) it seems mad on current form that SOD is the pick, but also not a surprise at all. Clarke clearly trusts him and in general seems to value squad continuity over club form (which has been getting results tbf). I expect he'll be warming the bench but hopefully some time with the Scotand squad will clear his head, because he's seemed a bit off mentally in the last few weeks - nervous, concentration lapses, poor positioning, rash decision making in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 O'Donnell, if he plays, will do absolutely fine for Scotland IMO. Watt a bit unlucky, particularly as Nisbet hasn't been great, but that's how Clarke is running his squad eh? Balance and group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) For avoidance of doubt, given my posts earlier could be read with a slight anti-SOD snark, I'm also of the opinion that if O'Donnell plays he'll be absolutely fine for Scotland. Edited November 2, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Swello said: I would ask who - but past history is probably a guide... I went directly to Liam Kelly's twitter account based on the cryptic nature of this and Busta's post. But surprisingly no joy. Feel a wee bit for Kelly, shipping 6 goals is never easy but surely Clarke can distinguish the 44 crosses is going to result in getting your arse handed to you. Bitter pill to swallow as surely Clarke only gets to see McLaughlin in a high vis if he pops into Murray Park during the week. Watt must be shrugging his shoulders, what does he have to do, papped for a new cap brought up in West Yorkshire unless it's to rule him out of any other countries snapping him up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I assumed that when Kelly was selected for the last squad that Clark would get the shout next time. Will the alternating continue? Possibly down to form. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, ropy said: I assumed that when Kelly was selected for the last squad that Clark would get the shout next time. Will the alternating continue? Possibly down to form. I'd have said Kelly would make this squad if we weren't leaking like a fucked fridge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kapowzer said: I went directly to Liam Kelly's twitter account based on the cryptic nature of this and Busta's post. But surprisingly no joy. It's Laura Brannan from the media team that's been getting very worked up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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