Richie Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Aye, I was saying I would have taken a 1-0 defeat at Ibrox beforehand. Scenes during the game, but the late Rangers goal had slight alarm bells. When Zaliukas missed the aforementioned chance at Fir Park I relaxed a bit and thought that was that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 No mention of Harry Paton on the list? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I might have told this story on here before, but on the day of the first leg of the playoffs I had to go back to work that night.. As I was on the Subway and it got to Partick, the platform on the other side was full of Rangers fans. End to end. All with their scarves up, all singing, all acting broadly the way you'd expect. By the time I got home they were down 3-0. I enjoyed the thought of them all being absolutely miserable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 With them not updating us on the likes of SOD, Efford and McGinn signing on again, do you think they will remember the rest or we just to wait for Pre-Season training and any photos to guess who's there. Also - wasn't there a news article on Matty Connolly signing on? Did I dream that? If so what a fucked up thing to dream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allroy for Prez Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Does that mean there’s zero chance of Furlong returning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'WellDel Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Allroy for Prez said: Does that mean there’s zero chance of Furlong returning? Not entirely, I don't think. He's performed well in his first stint in first team football and I imagine there'll be a few teams interested in him. He'll have options for sure, but I don't think we'll be the worst one. If his heads screwed on he might forego chasing the money straight away and opt to stay where he's likely to get a continued run at first team football with an eye to a better move later. Here's hoping anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Handsome_Devil said: That's one of the most bizarre retained lists I've seen...why on earth announce things like that? It's absolutely nuts. I mean, Corey O'Donnell and Jake Carroll are already on the PFA's list of available players. https://pfascotland.co.uk/player-availability-list/ Fwiw, this was last season's and it's pretty straightforward. https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2022/05/20/end-of-2021-22-squad-update/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 My take on that retained list was as expected, the biggest job for Kettlewell will be moving on players who aren't out of contract. We seem to have extended the deals of O'Donnell, McGinn, Mahon and Efford on the fly. I'm guessing that O'Donnell and McGinn were activated by clauses, hence no official announcement. With Efford, I'm assuming we are either doing the right thing, or Kettlewell thinks there is a player there. With the out of contract players, I reckon we have offered Cornelius and Johnston deals (which they've no intention of signing) to protect our compensation rights. Beyond that, I see Goss and Casey being offered deals, which I think there's more chance of Goss signing than Casey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Also, I reckon the list is just to let us know that Morris is gone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezz Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, MP_MFC said: Oh glorious day Can only assume this announcement will take precedence over the playoff win for the ‘On This Day’ tweet this time next year. Look forward to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Also, I reckon the list is just to let us know that Morris is gone. They built up to it though. I respect them for building the tension. We've had some mental dealings in contracts in the last few years. Would be good if we could mutual a few of the diddies. Shields has proven for both us and QP that he's not good enough and I don't even need to get in to any detail about Maguire. As for the list of folk who could get a new contract Johnston's probably already away so you'd want to keep Casey, Goss and Deano. Get the rest hunted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Al B said: I have a really specific memory of being the exact opposite ahead of the playoffs for some reason. I watched the Rangers Hibs game at my mums (that's who I go to games with), and after it had finished and we knew it would be Rangers I went to the kitchen to put the kettle on. Her fridge is right at the kitchen door that goes into the livingroom and I remember standing at it getting the milk out and said to her...."I just have this weird feeling that we're not going to just win, but absolutely thump them". Had absolutely nothing to base it on whatsoever, I mean...we had showed nothing that season to suggest we were capable, but I just felt like it was on the cards for no real reason at all. I was as surprised as anyone when it actually happened though! After Scott McDonald signed in late February, we actually had a decent enough record of 18 points from 12 games and we had handed out a couple of doings to Accies and St. Mirren and got a few other decent results. We were down there because of our form under McCall and that spell Baraclough had where we won one point in eight games. That gave me a bit of encouragement that we had enough ability to do it. What did concern me was playing Rangers at Ibrox in the first leg. However bad Rangers may have been, the Ibrox hoodoo was hanging over us and given I'd watched the probably the best Motherwell team I've seen lose there to Sandaza & co in Division 3, I was sure that would play a part. I actually think the XI that played the play-offs was a strong enough team, but bizzarely enough, the only twice we fielded that exact XI was in the two legs of the playoffs. McDonald, Pearson and Johnson were bascially the three signings that saved our season and whilst McDonald was ever present, it seemed like we were often missing one of the other two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, MP_MFC said: Oh glorious day So that's what a £40 season ticket hike looks like 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: My take on that retained list was as expected, the biggest job for Kettlewell will be moving on players who aren't out of contract. We seem to have extended the deals of O'Donnell, McGinn, Mahon and Efford on the fly. I'm guessing that O'Donnell and McGinn were activated by clauses, hence no official announcement. With Efford, I'm assuming we are either doing the right thing, or Kettlewell thinks there is a player there. With the out of contract players, I reckon we have offered Cornelius and Johnston deals (which they've no intention of signing) to protect our compensation rights. Beyond that, I see Goss and Casey being offered deals, which I think there's more chance of Goss signing than Casey. I think there's also a chance some of those deals could have been done under the previous regime. McGinn fair enough, Mahon he'll be buttons, Efford a lot hangs on that purple patch, SOD is good value corporately but he's had more bad games in C&A than good, but yeah how he's used/sytems yadda yadda etc.. Still a lot of bit part players in a quite bloated squad. Final role of the dice fo Maguire and Shields or seaside leagues for them. But as far as lists go, it offer littles tangible information. Edited May 31, 2023 by Kapowzer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: With Efford, I'm assuming we are either doing the right thing, or Kettlewell thinks there is a player there. According to the recently updated website, his new deal runs to May 24. So it seems a bit more than just a Tanner/Dunne style short term extension. But aye, it’s certainly a strange way of going about things. Giving 3 senior players extensions but not saying anything publicly and then publishing a list of a dozen or so other players who may or may not have been offered something. In any case, I don’t envisage many if any of the others on that list to be at Fir Park next season. Edited May 31, 2023 by Casagolda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I think there is going to be some pretty honest "you'll no be playing" type conversations to be had this week as a number of contracted players are clearly surplus to requirements. If they all decide to sit it out as is absolutely their right, then we are struggling next season (or at least will be weaker than we finished this season, not stronger). At the summer of GA's first full season, I thought our squad looked the right size, with some decent quality and the right players on longer deals - it feels like it's been unmitigated chaos since then where we've signed way too many players for short term reasons (and had to offer them longer than short term deals to get them to come here). This summer is going to be about untangling the mess that's been made as much as we can to try get the squad re-balanced and the right size again. I just hope we don't need a third panicky winter window in a row. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 24 minutes ago, Casagolda said: According to the recently updated website, his new deal runs to May 24. So it seems a bit more than just a Tanner/Dunne style short term extension. I reckon he's probably not on that big a contract so giving him a year isn't a totally mental thing. Best case scenario that weird purple patch turns out to have shown there's a player that can add something to our squad. Worst case he gets binned this time next year or someone takes us off our hands in January. I mean we done it for Sol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 12:39, underboyleheating said: I wish him the very best wherever he goes... Whoever has made that thinks his surname is Machine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I'm absolutely gone at that. We've genuinely put out a big retained list entirely to tell us that Morris has gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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