crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, G51 said: Rangers have been trying for years to turn Hastie into a left back. That we've sent him on loan to Motherwell and said "Play him wherever you want, as often as you want" tells you that it wasn't a successful project. For years? don't know if I'm being whooshed here, but two years ago to now he was only halfway through said purple patch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pettigrew said: Years? 5 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: For years? don't know if I'm being whooshed here, but two years ago to now he was only halfway through said purple patch. Yikes, my sense of time is well off. 2020 can do that to a man. 6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Tbf they've been trying that with Middleton too. Must be an English manager thing, as Brendan Rodgers continously attempts it with wingers. I think it's some coaches trying to predict where the game is going. Players that can beat a man and cross a ball are more useful at full back these days. Whereas players in the traditional winger positions are more about finding space, making off-the-ball runs and finishing as they move closer and closer to the centre of the pitch. You're seeing a similar trend with centre-backs. Previously, passers with elite passing range played in the holding role in midfield. Now they play at centre back. Edited February 12, 2021 by G51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, G51 said: Rangers have been trying for years to turn Hastie into a left back. That we've sent him on loan to Motherwell and said "Play him wherever you want, as often as you want" tells you that it wasn't a successful project. 38 minutes ago, Pettigrew said: Years? 38 minutes ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: For years? don't know if I'm being whooshed here, but two years ago to now he was only halfway through said purple patch. he's spent about 7 months in total at rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Rangers have been trying for years to turn Hastie into a left back. That we've sent him on loan to Motherwell and said "Play him wherever you want, as often as you want" tells you that it wasn't a successful project.[emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, G51 said: Rangers have been trying for years to turn Hastie into a left back. That we've sent him on loan to Motherwell and said "Play him wherever you want, as often as you want" tells you that it wasn't a successful project. This has been my thinking in recent times, I’ve not seen Marvin Johnson play in recent times but is this not his career pathway too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Andy_P's AGM summaries on Steelmen are always v.good. I hope he doesn't mind the blatant C&P to drop it in here. 1 hour ago, Andy_P said: AGM was online last night. It took me a bit to login so not sure what I missed at the start but basically all the board, secretary, (accountants possibly) and Graham Alexander were all present. As ever an informative hour or so the contents of which I'll try to sum up. The main thing as ever was finance. Several questions were submitted by shareholders beforehand and Jim McMahon lead straight into it and referred back to it several times. Key things were that the the current situation is currently manageable in the medium term. There is an insurance claim in and the club have applied to take advantage of the Government's 20 year interest free loan of up to £1.6m (they reckoned 11 of the 12 clubs had) so with these things to be confirmed, they couldn't be certain of how things would look this time next year, but are sure that as long as we aren't relegated and even without fans in the ground there would be cash in the bank come the end of next season regardless. The question of the robustness of the club should the worst happen and we are relegated was discussed and whilst nobody wants this they clearly have to plan for such eventualities and the phrase used was the club would "get through it". The view is the club is in a significantly stronger position to deal with it now than it would have been 5 or 6 years ago. The club haven't taken/accepted any monies from the Well Society this year or last in an effort to allow the WS to build up towards the previously stated £1.5m fund that would play a significant part in helping the club through any traumatic event such as relegation. In addition contracts are structured in such a fashion that costs can be taken of the business quickly. No regrets from the board about the Season Ticket offer of committing to the 19 games as it was the correct thing to do. They envisage more details about what will happen next season in around a month to six weeks. Staying at Fir Park is not off the table. Happy they have been able to undertake some significant modernisation and upgrading of parts of Fir Park e.g. replacement of Hunter stand seats, paintwork. Will work on contactless entry and perhaps in time and re-design of the entry points to the Hunter stand. Some brief chat about contracts stemming from a question on Declan Gallagher. View from one board member was that in general terms specifics of contracts that appear in the media should largely be taken with a pinch of salt. They did however say they have made offers to Declan but he is currently keeping his options open. On a wider point they acknowledged that it is difficult to tie down players to extended contracts with agents advising players to let them run down to consider options. The flip side to this is that get it wrong and you may find players locked into deals that are unsuitable for both (e.g. Casper Sloth). On training facilities there appears a change in thinking in that seeking to enhance what they have at Dalziel Park is likely to be more cost effective and beneficial than a new development. Plans are ongoing with a sub-group of board members and reps from Dalziel to achieve this aim at some point in the future. Could potentially see the club be an anchor tenant and based there day to day but there is an acknowledgement that what is there at Dalziel is the envy of others already and would benefit all if that could be built upon. Graham Alexander "took the floor" once the board had answered the submitted questions and spoke well, and at some length, about him taking the job, his first weeks in charge and his hopes for the future. He spoke of his and his families excitement to re-locating Scotland to be fully committed to the job. He had a gut feeling when applying for the job and when talking to the board that this was a challenge he wanted to take on. He spoke of the warm welcome given to him by all within the club and the good people he had found. He mentioned his disappointment as not having been able to interact with fans but expressed gratitude for the welcome from supporters who had sent warm wishes, letters etc. He is keen to meet fans when the time comes. He said he found a squad of players naturally somewhat dejected on the back of previous results and offered credit to all players and staff for a great attitude and how they have turned that around. A lot of work has been done but still much work to do and nobody can relax. He complemented many behind the scenes for the support in helping him implement changes and made the observation that small improvements that on their own might not seem much combined had helped things improve. He stated he had a positive outlook and preferred to focus on the positives of what he had in a team rather than concentrate on the negatives. He feels he has a way of working that brings clarity to the players about the plan they have to follow, based on his experiences as a player. The initial aim is obviously to keep the club in the division then look to add quality to the squad. He envisages working with a smaller squad than that currently. He has aspirations to see us take on and compete with bigger clubs in the division, for his team to have the drive and ambition to compete consistently. He is learning of the challenges that face a club like Motherwell but wants to see us change historical patterns and not to take a step back against anyone (the inference being the two recent Old Firm games). He wants to change the mentally of how we approach such games and create an environment where players all buy into that mindset. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettigrew Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Take it no-one on here sent him the snood as a welcoming gift... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 So the club are just ignoring the Gallagher thing and putting it down as "whut? lol!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, Pettigrew said: Take it no-one on here sent him the snood as a welcoming gift... That was the cringe of the evening :)) Probably got handed it by the person that turned up at 11pm to meet him. Alexander spoke very well actually - I can see players buying into his stuff. Other than that, it was quite efficient due to a lack of old boys asking 45 minute questions.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: So the club are just ignoring the Gallagher thing and putting it down as "whut? lol!" What I took from it last night was that the "Gun to head"/automatic extension thing wasn't true (or at the very least wasn't something the club were enforcing) - they emphasised repeatedly that his contract ended this summer full stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 they speak the truth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 hours ago, capt_oats said: It's probably worth acknowledging that we did alright out it in banking £350k for him as well. There's definitely a player in there somewhere, as I've said before he was v.good for Craigan's u20s when being used on his natural side wide left. I've a feeling he was used on the left for Alloa and Airdrie too. The fact that he's repeatedly been shoved out right as an inverted winger since that purple patch seems to have completely destroyed any confidence he had on the park. I'd have thought the obvious next step for him would be to drop down a level in a Shankland, Nisbet style. In a way I do feel a bit sorry for him in that respect. Like we chucked him in when we were total shite and somehow hit the jackpot. Aside from running past Richard Tait once this season he's looked totally devoid of confidence. Maybe he would benefit from a stint on the left and being told to just shell the fucking thing into the box. The only problem with that is we're playing Tony Watt off to the left and he's been our POTY in a fairly shite team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, well fan for life said: In a way I do feel a bit sorry for him in that respect. Like we chucked him in when we were total shite and somehow hit the jackpot. Aside from running past Richard Tait once this season he's looked totally devoid of confidence. Maybe he would benefit from a stint on the left and being told to just shell the fucking thing into the box. The only problem with that is we're playing Tony Watt off to the left and he's been our POTY in a fairly shite team. Hastie and Smith to form a special team unit for the last 10 minutes of matches. They could practice up the park after training. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Swello said: That was the cringe of the evening :)) Probably got handed it by the person that turned up at 11pm to meet him. Alexander spoke very well actually - I can see players buying into his stuff. Other than that, it was quite efficient due to a lack of old boys asking 45 minute questions.... I have never attended before, the online access worked well for me. Done in an hour, excellent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: So the club are just ignoring the Gallagher thing and putting it down as "whut? lol!" Wait till he plays another game, Burrows will run onto the park shouting Ah, I fooled you, you are here forever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Busta Nut said: So the club are just ignoring the Gallagher thing and putting it down as "whut? lol!" As you said at the time, the Gallagher thing just sounds like teen drama. Aside from me not realising I had to register for Zoom to get in and missing the first 5 mins the whole experience was pretty pleasant. It covered everything I wanted to hear about and given the circumstances it was weirdly positive, especially re: medium-long term goals. Fully agree that Alexander spoke very well. Edited February 12, 2021 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, ropy said: I have never attended before, the online access worked well for me. Done in an hour, excellent. Last year, 1 question about our wage:turnover ratio took an hour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, capt_oats said: It covered everything I wanted to hear about and given the circumstances it was weirdly positive, especially re: medium-long term goals. This was the key thing for me. It's been clear that some clubs in the league have been hugely set back by the pandemic but I wasn't getting that vibe at all last night. If the benefit of being well run the last few years and being in the black when the pandemic hit means that we come out in slightly better shape than some of our rivals, then that's fair enough. Not taking money from the 'Well society in a year where no supporters have been in is a genuinely positive sign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just realised we don’t have a game on Wednesday, we always win on a Wednesday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Shocked that Burrows didn't actually have a gun to his head tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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