Radford Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 He sings the Sash and likes to flash, walking in a Lomas wonderland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Has Random really just done a resignation post on WAP!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Comparisons to Connolly are bizarre. No-one knows what Davidson would be like as a manager, though the board will have a better idea than most. It was their knowledge of Tommy's relationship with the players that justified his appointment. Over the last 60 years we've hardly ever promoted from within, so it's hardly certain we'd take that route anyway. Our own history is no indication of whether it would be successful. Sometimes it works (McInnes, Wright); sometimes it doesn't (McLelland, Gibson). Ex-players are a universally bad idea (evidence for the prosecution: Connolly and Rennie). Managers with a decent record poached from other teams are historically almost as bad (Alex Totten a rare example of success in a desperate field that contains Connolly, Clark, Storrie and Jacky Stewart). If we could rely on history as a guide to future performance I'd go for a recently-retired player, most likely to be coaching at another club: Brown, Ormond, Sturrock, Coyle and Lomas have been our only managers in the last 60 years to have come directly from that environment. Every one a success. I agree with all of this apart from the bit about Rennie. He won the first division with a part time team, then came close to keeping us up when we were still part-time. He brought through McCoist and sold him for a fortune. The board gave him no backing despite also selling Beedie for good money. The demise of Saints at that time was more the board's fault than his in my eyes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, Radford said: He sings the Sash and likes to flash, walking in a Lomas wonderland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Marly said: I agree with all of this apart from the bit about Rennie. He won the first division with a part time team, then came close to keeping us up when we were still part-time. He brought through McCoist and sold him for a fortune. The board gave him no backing despite also selling Beedie for good money. The demise of Saints at that time was more the board's fault than his in my eyes. Saints tumble down the divisions at this time was as much the boards fault than the managers.....probably more so. Brown saved Saints from oblivion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, sjc said: Saints tumble down the divisions at this time was as much the boards fault than the managers.....probably more so. Brown saved Saints from oblivion. ^^^ used to love going to watch Saints at Muirton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Marly said: I agree with all of this apart from the bit about Rennie. He won the first division with a part time team, then came close to keeping us up when we were still part-time. He brought through McCoist and sold him for a fortune. The board gave him no backing despite also selling Beedie for good money. The demise of Saints at that time was more the board's fault than his in my eyes. Yeah, Rennie’s difficult. Undoubted success in the early years: picking up Storrie’s debris to turn perennial relegation fodder into something really exciting; even losing McCoist didn’t stop us pipping Hearts to the First Division title. And as the only part-time team in the Premier Saints were always going to struggle; no fault there. But he stayed too long. You can’t whitewash successive relegations. That’s a black mark no other Saints manager has ever had. In the end it comes down to whether he left us worse off than when he joined us. Unquestionably, he did. ETA: Rennie didn't sign McCoist - I think that was Alex Stuart, the manager I'd forgotten about. He came from Ayr United and was another failure, so still fits in with the theory that we should nick other club's managers. Edited May 4, 2017 by Mr Heliums 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, tree house tam said: ^^^ used to love going to watch Saints at Muirton. I did! The early years at McDairmid weren't bad either! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 51 minutes ago, The Saintee said: Bring it on. Who doesn't like a bit of Ecuador or Encore Un Fois? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, The Saintee said: Dean Strang 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthsaint1977 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Jeezo one comment has fairly caused a fair bit of interest in this thread. I was only trying to say I feel CD would be a bad appointment and could see a similar spiral downwards that happened following JC appointment. I have nothing to base this on other than a gut feeling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, Rennie’s difficult. Undoubted success in the early years: picking up Storrie’s debris to turn perennial relegation fodder into something really exciting; even losing McCoist didn’t stop us pipping Hearts to the First Division title. And as the only part-time team in the Premier Saints were always going to struggle; no fault there. But he stayed too long. You can’t whitewash successive relegations. That’s a black mark no other Saints manager has ever had. In the end it comes down to whether he left us worse off than when he joined us. Unquestionably, he did. ETA: Rennie didn't sign McCoist - I think that was Alex Stuart, the manager I'd forgotten about. He came from Ayr United and was another failure, so still fits in with the theory that we should nick other club's managers. He didn't take over from Storrie either[emoji57] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marly Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Dam posted before you edited [emoji16] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Scougall released by Sheff U 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 Better get that passport renewed, then. Armenia beckons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kyle said: Better get that passport renewed, then. Armenia beckons. Too early to say that. Hopefully we beat Partick next weekend at a sun soaked McDiarmid Park in front of 5,843 fans to seal the deal. Everyone should bring their passports to hold above their heads as the players emerge from the tunnel to the sound of Europe - Final Countdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree house tam Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Kyle said: Better get that passport renewed, then. Armenia beckons. f**k sakes Kyle. Until it's 99% certain I'll no be celebrating, stress inducing this fitba malarkey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted May 7, 2017 Author Share Posted May 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: Too early to say that. Hopefully we beat Partick next weekend at a sun soaked McDiarmid Park in front of 5,843 fans to seal the deal. Everyone should bring their passports to hold above their heads as the players emerge from the tunnel to the sound of Europe - Final Countdown. Hearts still have to play Celtic and Rangers away, as well as ourselves. My flights to Armenia are already booked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saintee Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 We'll f*ck it up against Thistle. Guaranteed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I never thought I'd have the chance to go back to Armenia so quickly. Can't wait. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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